Hopkins-Calzaghe- Will there be a knockout?

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  • The Critic
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    #31
    Originally posted by Allucard
    Try age, dude. Hopkins is 43 years old. Ten years ago Calzaghe would have no chance in hell. I'm so tired of fighters lurking on the old. And why do they get so much credit for it? Is it people don't realize you shouldn't be fighting at 43?

    I agree with you as far as your claim that there is too much attention placed on fights among old men. Jones-Trinidad and the like, people clamoring even for a David Tua return . . . . .

    But this fight is between two current Ring champions. It's not what they did ten years ago that has built this fight.

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    • Jolly Roger
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      #32
      Originally posted by Allucard
      Try age, dude. Hopkins is 43 years old. Ten years ago Calzaghe would have no chance in hell. I'm so tired of fighters lurking on the old. And why do they get so much credit for it? Is it people don't realize you shouldn't be fighting at 43?
      10 years ago Calzaghe was green and maybe would have lost a decision. Prime for prime though i don't think anyone would say he "would have no chance in hell", that would be ridiculous, disrespectful, and/or ignorant.

      I don't think Calzaghe is "lurking on the old" really, he's been chasing this fight for a long time, and nearly got it all those years ago when Hopkins backed out of an agreed deal. Lets not blame JC for this fight not taking place sooner. Also Hopkins isn't your usual old fighter, because of his lifestyle he is probably in better physical shape than alot fighters in their mid 30s.

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      • Ryn0
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        #33
        Originally posted by Allucard
        Try age, dude. Hopkins is 43 years old. Ten years ago Calzaghe would have no chance in hell. I'm so tired of fighters lurking on the old. And why do they get so much credit for it? Is it people don't realize you shouldn't be fighting at 43?
        5 years ago i think it would've been an amazing fight when both fighters at Calzaghe the most were big knockout punchers but 10 years ago Calzaghe wasn't a titlist i say 5 years ago this fight shoudllve happened and even then i'd be leaning toward a Calzaghe decision and not the shutout that you describe. In a manner similar to the RJJ - Hopkins fight which was very boring but close UD.

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        • kfinger56
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          #34
          Originally posted by The Critic
          Surely you admit there's a very large gap in class between Calzaghe and those two?
          I'll give you that Winky was undersized as a natural jr middle fighting at 166, but he hadn't lost a fight since the Vargas one and was a top p4p fighter prior to the Hopkins fight. And yes, Tarver looks shot now, but he certainly didn't appear to be having any problems before Hopkins slapped him silly for 12 rounds to the point that Buddy McGirt told Tarver to hold on and not get hurt in the 12th.

          This is by no means saying they're as good or better than Calzaghe, but let's not pretend Winky and Tarver weren't top guys in their respective divisions when Hopkins beat them. As for the age, Calzaghe will be 36 by fight night, which for anyone but Hopkins is generally on the downside of a fighter's career.
          Last edited by kfinger56; 03-11-2008, 06:48 PM. Reason: wrote wrong weight for fight

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          • Clegg
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            #35
            Both Calzaghe and Hopkins have a chin to match the other's best punch.

            Calzaghe got hit flush by Kessler and took it. This means that if Calzaghe is going down it'll have to be a combination that is better than anything any other fighter has thrown at him, and not only does Hopkins not punch as hard as Kessler but the odds of him landing a combination flush on Calzaghe's jaw? Nah...

            The only way Hopkins wins by KO is if he lands a body shot like he did against de la Hoya. It doesn't matter how good a guy's chin is, a perfect body shot like that hurts you.

            As others have mentioned Calzaghe is only going to win by stoppage if the ref from the Manfredo fight is there and jumps in too soon.

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            • Derranged
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              #36
              Very doubtfull, unless there's a liver shot!!

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              • Rkicards
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                #37
                Originally posted by Jolly Roger
                10 years ago Calzaghe was green and maybe would have lost a decision. Prime for prime though i don't think anyone would say he "would have no chance in hell", that would be ridiculous, disrespectful, and/or ignorant.

                I don't think Calzaghe is "lurking on the old" really, he's been chasing this fight for a long time, and nearly got it all those years ago when Hopkins backed out of an agreed deal. Lets not blame JC for this fight not taking place sooner. Also Hopkins isn't your usual old fighter, because of his lifestyle he is probably in better physical shape than alot fighters in their mid 30s.
                The same Calzaghe 11 years ago who beat Eubank would beat Hopkins in 1997.

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                • Run
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                  #38
                  Decision.

                  And if you included a "LMFAO, No." option I would have voted that.



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                  • STEELHEAD
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Allucard
                    Try age, dude. Hopkins is 43 years old. Ten years ago Calzaghe would have no chance in hell. I'm so tired of fighters lurking on the old. And why do they get so much credit for it? Is it people don't realize you shouldn't be fighting at 43?
                    well they make the bucks. and we pay for it.
                    its what the market will bear.
                    yea...i get tired of the milkers too.
                    tyson,holyfield,even the klitschkos.but you can't blame them.
                    look at tua!!!lol

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                    • Addison
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                      #40
                      Definately a first round KO.

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