Is Miranda in top 10 at SMW?

[MJ406]

I can't blame Miranda for calling out Kessler.

**** it happened today and look how much hype it's already getting on the boards.

and Pantera yes it matters who you fight at that respective weight to be ranked.

after 2 fights at 168 vs Porras and David Banks (again are either of these 2 ranked?)


how can you say Miranda is a top 10 Super Middle?

talent level aside, he's had 2 fights at 168. ranking him top 10 is a bit pre-mature IMO.

[ippo]

Hes at least top 10, nothing hard to believe about that.

[Dick-Sucker]

Hes at least top 10, nothing hard to believe about that.

Yeh. It is actually.

Its hard to believe American fans are so dumb.

American fans get to see Miranda in action. They have seen Kessler once, Munine never, Bute never, Froch never and they think they can judge that Miranda would clean out the division.

Miranda should fight Bika to see who gets the 10th ranking for the division.

[Silencers]

Yeh. It is actually.

Its hard to believe American fans are so dumb.

American fans get to see Miranda in action. They have seen Kessler once, Munine never, Bute never, Froch never and they think they can judge that Miranda would clean out the division.

Miranda should fight Bika to see who gets the 10th ranking for the division.

That would be a good fight, their styles would make for an exciting one.

[ИATAS]

Allen Green is ranked 7th and he beat him. So that alone should make him top 10.

Jeff Lacy is ranked 4th, and I think Miranda KO's him.

Sakio Bika is ranked 8th, Miranda KO's him.

Jermain Taylor is ranked 10th, and his only fight over middleweight was a loss to Pavlik.....so how is he ranked 10 and Miranda isn't on the list???


The rest are debatable, but clearly he should be top 10

[Dick-Sucker]

Allen Green is ranked 7th and he beat him. So that alone should make him top 10.

Jeff Lacy is ranked 4th, and I think Miranda KO's him.

Sakio Bika is ranked 8th, Miranda KO's him.

Jermain Taylor is ranked 10th, and his only fight over middleweight was a loss to Pavlik.....so how is he ranked 10 and Miranda isn't on the list???


The rest are debatable, but clearly he should be top 10

I think Lacy and Bika would proove tough for Miranda.

As for Taylor, obviously he is a more complete fighter than Miranda, thats why he is ranked higher.

I don't agree with Pantera2000 saying in a PM to me " Miranda would KO Kessler" and people saying hes top 5. He may slip into my last top 10 spots. Nothing more than that.

[ippo]

How is he not at least top 10.

[xEDDIEx]

id definately put him in the top 10 at smw. probably in the 8-10 range.

[Steak]

ok, well, Calzaghe, Kessler, Bute, Inkin, Mundine, and Froch all definately deserve to be ahead of Miranda.
but thats only 6.

I would say Bika is ahead of Miranda, Bika has some pretty notable wins at 168. and his loss to Beyer shouldnt really count, IVe heard he was ahead up until the cut stoppage...thats 7. so...3 more spots leftover.
I think its fair to put Lacy ahead...hes fairly accomplished at 168, even though Im reluctant to put him real high because he had a huge layoff, a terrible injury, and had taken a ton of punishment in the Calzaghe and Vitali fights...2 spots left.
I dont know much about Brahmer other than he has a win over a fairly old Veit...he looked ok from what Ive seen of him. Ill take other people's word on it and say hes top ten, I guess...1 spot left.
and I dont see any possible other person that should have this. Andrade? Sorry, he hasnt beaten anyone of note other than Yusaf Mack, who lost to Berrio too. I like him and all, but the only reason people rate him is because he ate shots from Kessler.

honestly, who the hell else could be rated top ten? and with Calzaghe fighting Hopkins, he wont be a Super Middleweight anymore, which adds a spot. I would say Miranda is top ten with a dominant win over Banks and a win over Allan Green

[Pantera2000]

ok, well, Calzaghe, Kessler, Bute, Inkin, Mundine, and Froch all definately deserve to be ahead of Miranda.
but thats only 6.

I would say Bika is ahead of Miranda, Bika has some pretty notable wins at 168. and his loss to Beyer shouldnt really count, IVe heard he was ahead up until the cut stoppage...thats 7. so...3 more spots leftover.
I think its fair to put Lacy ahead...hes fairly accomplished at 168, even though Im reluctant to put him real high because he had a huge layoff, a terrible injury, and had taken a ton of punishment in the Calzaghe and Vitali fights...2 spots left.
I dont know much about Brahmer other than he has a win over a fairly old Veit...he looked ok from what Ive seen of him. Ill take other people's word on it and say hes top ten, I guess...1 spot left.
and I dont see any possible other person that should have this. Andrade? Sorry, he hasnt beaten anyone of note other than Yusaf Mack, who lost to Berrio too. I like him and all, but the only reason people rate him is because he ate shots from Kessler.

honestly, who the hell else could be rated top ten? and with Calzaghe fighting Hopkins, he wont be a Super Middleweight anymore, which adds a spot. I would say Miranda is top ten with a dominant win over Banks and a win over Allan Green

You cant forget his accomplishments at 160lbs either.
He beat Abraham in many eyes (at least went toe to toe with him).
And other than Pavlik, he tore through the 160lbs division.

He stops Porras earlier than Kessler, Froch or Brahmer.
He KOs Banks in style, a guy never off his feet.

TOP 10 no doubt! I still say Top 5!