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    What do you consider a more intriguing matchup? Kessler vs. Miranda or Bute vs. Joppy?

    Bottom line is, Kessler is coming off a loss. Miranda represents exciting fresh blood in the division. That is a fight that needs to happen. Bute does not seem to want to fight anyone with a heartbeat so Kess will not get a fight with him. Mundine does not represent a big fight in the US like Kessler wants. The only matchups out there that make sense for him right now is Taylor and Miranda. Miranda is offering his services.

    When you think Kessler will win easily, why do you keep brushing off a fight with Miranda as a fight that should not happen. No offense but it makes you appear like you are trying to protect Kessler when he can do a damn fine job on his own in the ring.

    I also think Kessler can win, but if he makes one mistake against someone like Miranda, it can go the other way. That is exactly why this fight is such an intriguing one.

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      #12
      Originally posted by deanrw
      What do you consider a more intriguing matchup? Kessler vs. Miranda or Bute vs. Joppy?

      Bottom line is, Kessler is coming off a loss. Miranda represents exciting fresh blood in the division. That is a fight that needs to happen. Bute does not seem to want to fight anyone with a heartbeat so Kess will not get a fight with him. Mundine does not represent a big fight in the US like Kessler wants. The only matchups out there that make sense for him right now is Taylor and Miranda. Miranda is offering his services.

      When you think Kessler will win easily, why do you keep brushing off a fight with Miranda as a fight that should not happen. No offense but it makes you appear like you are trying to protect Kessler when he can do a damn fine job on his own in the ring.

      I also think Kessler can win, but if he makes one mistake against someone like Miranda, it can go the other way. That is exactly why this fight is such an intriguing one.
      Trust me man. Mundine would burn the US flag and hundreds of thousands would watch.

      Hes done it in Australia.

      The guy is a publicity machine.

      He would probably start cracking randoms and believe me. He would sell well...

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        #13
        Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
        Trust me man. Mundine would burn the US flag and hundreds of thousands would watch.

        Hes done it in Australia.

        The guy is a publicity machine.

        He would probably start cracking randoms and believe me. He would sell well...
        Sorry man but I disagree. Joe vs. Mikkel was shown on HBO over here and nobody cared. They were both unknown qualities over here so nobody but the die hard fans watched. Miranda is very well known. He is an ESPN and HBO regular. Casual fans even know him and tune in to see him fight. He represents the sport in it's most brutal and raw form. That is what attracts the fans over here. Kessler needs someone like him to break out over here.

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          #14
          Originally posted by deanrw
          Sorry man but I disagree. Joe vs. Mikkel was shown on HBO over here and nobody cared. They were both unknown qualities over here so nobody but the die hard fans watched. Miranda is very well known. He is an ESPN and HBO regular. Casual fans even know him and tune in to see him fight. He represents the sport in it's most brutal and raw form. That is what attracts the fans over here. Kessler needs someone like him to break out over here.
          Ask yourself why man?

          Did you see the press conferences. Both guys respected each other and were practically friends.

          When Mundine gets a press conference in the USA. He will start making claims. "Im the best boxer in the world at the moment". "Im gonna knock you all out".

          They will be arrogant, rude, but one thing is for sure, he will sell tickets.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
            Trust me man. Mundine would burn the US flag and hundreds of thousands would watch.

            Hes done it in Australia.

            The guy is a publicity machine.

            He would probably start cracking randoms and believe me. He would sell well...
            Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
            Ask yourself why man?

            Did you see the press conferences. Both guys respected each other and were practically friends.

            When Mundine gets a press conference in the USA. He will start making claims. "Im the best boxer in the world at the moment". "Im gonna knock you all out".

            They will be arrogant, rude, but one thing is for sure, he will sell tickets.
            Yes he will sell some. Miranda on the other hand is already established and tops it off as being Mayorga-ish talented when it comes to **** talking and promoting . Hell he already has every boxing forum I read all fired up and wanting this.

            I look at both guys as bad asses. To hell with the rankings and all that other BS. This fight makes sense for the fans. It has all the elements to make the winner the biggest draw in the division, and that in the end, makes more sense than anything.

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              #16
              Originally posted by deanrw
              Yes he will sell some. Miranda on the other hand is already established and tops it off as being Mayorga-ish talented when it comes to **** talking and promoting . Hell he already has every boxing forum I read all fired up and wanting this.

              I look at both guys as bad asses. To hell with the rankings and all that other BS. This fight makes sense for the fans. It has all the elements to make the winner the biggest draw in the division, and that in the end, makes more sense than anything.
              Dude. The winner won't be as big as Calzaghe.

              And if the fight goes ahead. Kessler will be a raging favourite.

              I would rather see Kessler vs Bute.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
                Dude. The winner won't be as big as Calzaghe.

                And if the fight goes ahead. Kessler will be a raging favourite.

                I would rather see Kessler vs Bute.

                Calzaghe is not big in the US. Kessler wants to be big in the US. Bute represents nothing but a belt. That is it.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by deanrw
                  Calzaghe is not big in the US. Kessler wants to be big in the US. Bute represents nothing but a belt. That is it.
                  Well thats not Calzaghe and Kesslers fault. That fight fans in the US are really bias and do not follow top notch boxers.

                  Get with it US boxing fans.....

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
                    Well thats not Calzaghe and Kesslers fault. That fight fans in the US are really bias and do not follow top notch boxers.

                    Get with it US boxing fans.....
                    To some extent, yes the US fans are finicky. Joe and Mikkel could have made themselves known over here a lot sooner though by actually fighting a couple times over here. Boxing over here is overshadowed by team sports a great deal, so talent alone in boxing does not reap the rewards it should like it does in Europe.

                    Over here you have to scratch and fight for position, make lots of noise and more than anything make yourself seen. Miranda has all that going for him already, which is why a fight with him makes sense.

                    Pavlik's promoter said recently that for the rest of this year, he will not have Pavlik fight in any more PPV fights. He is doing this so the general public can see more of him, which will make him more bankable down the road.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
                      Trust me man. Mundine would burn the US flag and hundreds of thousands would watch.

                      Hes done it in Australia.

                      The guy is a publicity machine.

                      He would probably start cracking randoms and believe me. He would sell well...
                      hahaha. Sorry I just read this one again. Mundine, an Australian, would come to the US to fight Kessler, a European, and burn a US flag? Sorry man that makes no sense at all. Only thing he would earn is a court date and flight back to Australia via deportation. No North American casual fans would care to see it.

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