The Roy Jones Debate

[THE REED]

You not gettin involved?

Honestly... the topic has exhausted me... the hate fest that went on this weekend... just utterly wowed me... not even so much the opinion for or against roy... but the hate and name calling towards me, just because I like roy...


Also these guys know more about benn, eubank, mclellan etc etc then i do..

[sterling]

Good post. Not much more to add to it.

Thats the problem :P not a very gd legacy and it was ruined when he lost them 3 fights when he shudnet of but overall he did great defo a hofer but never a top 10 p4p of all time sad but true.

[sterling]

i just wonder if Roy's China would have held up against Heavy Hitters like Mclelland & Benn who always managed to land at some point.

dont u mean chanderlier? lol i cant believe glen koed roy that ruined roy same with tarver.

[Dynamite Kid]

Interesting. I always thought it was the other way round, that Eubank (and also Nigel) was (and is/are) underrated by boxing fans and the boxing fraternity, down to jealousy.

i dont think they woudl have been underrated if They had fought guys like Nunn ,Toney.Hopkins, RJJ who would have denied them their Star Status with wins against those guys

[Glouk]

Roy Jones too steroids so nothing he accomplished is legit.

[Silencers]

Thats the problem :P not a very gd legacy and it was ruined when he lost them 3 fights when he shudnet of but overall he did great defo a hofer but never a top 10 p4p of all time sad but true.

A lot of fighters lose fights they're not supposed to.

[obaioghill]

"Roy Jones too steroids so nothing he accomplished is legit."

This is just silly - we have been through this - but here goes. Besides the Richard Hall fight and Roy admission of using "ripped fuel" the evidence I have seen has boiled don to - he didn't do as well after BALCO and He looked really ripped and muscled - no one could look that ripped naturally.
You are entitled to day what you want - but discounting a boxer who was the one of - and likely best - boxer of the 1990's because of rumor - I just don't see it.

[-Antonio-]

I do get bitter seeing an obviously slowed down Toney get outclassed by Roy. That was not James Toney at his best. The weight was killing him.

The thing is, I don't think it would have mattered. Roy would have always beaten Toney. He could have just moved and pot shotted. Toney has a good jab, but he is at his best when he sets his feet and gets in a rhythm. I just don't see him doing that against Roy.

[Orange Sneakers]

i dont think they woudl have been underrated if They had fought guys like Nunn ,Toney.Hopkins, RJJ who would have denied them their Star Status with wins against those guys

What's with this 'they'?


Anyway, 6 rounds with Benn at his best (160 + Galvano) is too many rounds for Jones to escape (though this is fantasy). And Benn would have destroyed a backpedaling Nunn. It doesn't matter how fast you move, Benn in his prime will catch you.

Eubank would have only won the first 4 rounds against Jones.

Hopkins? I hadn't even heard of him until he fought Felix Trinidad.

Eubank had a TERRIFIC stiff jab, a Eubank-Toney fight would 100% depend on whether Toney could read it to avoid and counter because otherwise he would be grinided down.

Nunn, Eubank, Toney and Jones were all excellent boxers and it's just a shame we didn't see them in with eachother more.

[sterling]

A lot of fighters lose fights they're not supposed to.

i know but jus how he lost made it worse for him and he could of fought alot more great fighters to get his legacy better but its to late now i doubt he will be top p4p of all time and he shudnet stil be fighting as it is.