Would Cotto do what Floyd is doing if he were P4P

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  • ThaHorseman
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    #51
    Originally posted by Terrible...
    well Floyd is phyiscally & technically more gifted than Cotto so IMO Cotto deserves more respect than Floyd does for beating Dela Hoya cause Molsey had a very good chance to beat Cotto infact most people on NSB were predicting an easy KO for Molsey ,Cotto being the underdog tells its own story when u compare it to Floyd v Oscar

    i agree Molsey & Oscar are probably on a par when it comes to levels though
    So Cotto should get more recognition because people know Floyd is the best? I really don't see how that matters in the comparison. Also, quite a few people thought Mosley did win that fight (I was not one of them).

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      #52
      Originally posted by ThaHorseman
      So Cotto should get more recognition because people know Floyd is the best? I really don't see how that matters in the comparison. Also, quite a few people thought Mosley did win that fight (I was not one of them).
      becauase he put himself at arms length regardless that he was fighting a very good oponent that was expected to beat him

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      • Dynamite Kid
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        #53
        u know it does make me laugh when u consider Floyd ranks himself alongside & even better than the likes of Ray Leonard ,Ray Robinson LOL

        When Hatton & Dela Hoya are the best names on his record ,its actually laughable ,Dela Hoya has been beaten 5 times

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          #54
          Originally posted by Terrible...
          u know it does make me laugh when u consider Floyd ranks himself alongside & even better than the likes of Ray Leonard ,Ray Robinson LOL

          When Hatton & Dela Hoya are the best names on his record ,its actually laughable ,Dela Hoya has been beaten 5 times
          A champion in 5 weight classes and still undefeated, his accomplishments alone rank him up there with the best of all time, how can you deny that? Name another fighter who has done what he's done in the sport, please.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Terrible...
            becauase he put himself at arms length regardless that he was fighting a very good oponent that was expected to beat him
            Its about wins and losses, not who is expected to win. Whether it was an upset or not should not make it a better win.

            Holyfield beating Tyson was every bit as good of a win as Douglas beating Tyson. Its one win.

            Cotto is a very good fighter, but your logic of why he deserves more respect is skewed. Him and Floyd beat very good fighters. Nothing more, nothing less.

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              #56
              Originally posted by raysan
              A champion in 5 weight classes and still undefeated, his accomplishments alone rank him up there with the best of all time, how can you deny that? Name another fighter who has done what he's done in the sport, please.

              Floyd thinks he is better than those fighters & so do some of his fan boys lOL

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                #57
                Originally posted by Terrible...
                Floyd thinks he is better than those fighters & so do some of his fan boys lOL
                Well name someone who has done what he has, and you would end the conversation right there right, all im asking for is one person.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by raysan
                  Well name someone who has done what he has, and you would end the conversation right there right, all im asking for is one person.

                  Ray Leonard beat 4ATG Fighters ,Hagler ,Hearns ,beintez ,Duran

                  Floyd has beaten Oscar & Hatton LOL

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Terrible...
                    Ray Leonard beat 4ATG Fighters ,Hagler ,Hearns ,beintez ,Duran

                    Floyd has beaten Oscar & Hatton LOL
                    thats not what i asked but if that makes you feel better, more power to you...

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by raysan
                      thats not what i asked but if that makes you feel better, more power to you...
                      i know what u asked me ,i just aint answering it so u can come out with some ****** statistic like 5 different weight classes in under 5 years or something stupoid like that ,its obvious im not gonna be able to name someone who has done indentically what he has done etc

                      Mulitple weight divisions is bollocks IMO

                      show me how many fighters have more than 4/5 Elite fighters on thier record ,thier aint many because that is the real yard stick IMO ,Beating Elite fighters is what makes u great not going up in weight divisions & identifying weak champions in those divisions

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