There should be a height limit for heavyweights

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  • tills9191
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    #21
    Originally posted by Tobi.G
    What would Valuev do to a prime Tyson? He would never hit him!! Tyson would win a UD or knock Valuev out late. Tyson vs. Wlad would be more difficult but i would still pick Tyson to win. Tysons combination of power AND speed is legendary.
    that's obvious.but im saying having such a huge size difference puts your opponent at major disadvantage.
    I see most people are picking wlad over sultan to win this weekend.
    and i can definitely agree with that.
    the size difference is very significant.

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    • tills9191
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      #22
      Originally posted by Tobi.G
      Of course!! Had he any quality opponent in his first 40 fights?? So YES, his winning record has nothing to do with his size but with the OPPOSITION he had?? Dont you get that into your brain or what?
      that's the most pathetic thing ive read.
      you have to be really ****** to think his size had nothing do to with his wins!!!!!!!!!!

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      • Tobi.G
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        #23
        Originally posted by tills9191
        that's obvious.but im saying having such a huge size difference puts your opponent at major disadvantage.
        I see most people are picking wlad over sultan to win this weekend.
        and i can definitely agree with that.
        the size difference is very significant.
        Klitschko is not only tall and big, hes a verry skilled heavyweight and a hard puncher. Ibragimovs defense is just average, although he has decent movement. Of course Wlad is th favourite in this fight but to me a win for Ibragimov is not out of question because Klitschko has problems with southpaws and Ibragimov is a fast southpaw. Brewster was also much smaller than Vlad but he once beat him.

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        • hulme#1
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          #24
          Originally posted by pins0099
          Then the answer is the short fat guys, need to trim some meat of the bone and go down to a lower divison
          Yeah. The thing that struck me about the Klitschko/Ibragimov weigh-in wasn't the height difference, but how much better condition one of the guys was in. Part of the reason I don't follow the heavyweight division closely is because I don't feel like I'm seeing athletes in the peak physical condition required.

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          • damian5000
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            #25
            So, you think Valuev would beat Klitschko?

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              #26
              Originally posted by tills9191
              that's the most pathetic thing ive read.
              you have to be really ****** to think his size had nothing do to with his wins!!!!!!!!!!
              Ok, Valuev has beaten this guys with his size, cause that all what he has. But that only works against this poor opponents, not against good heavyweights like Chagaev. Size allone dont make a good heavyweight. And because of his size and weight hes so slow and limited and can be outboxed by smaller faster fighters if they have the right gameplan. So his zize is also an disadvantage. That should be clearly to see if you watch his fights. Valuev showed improvements in his last fight against Likaovith but hes still far from unbeatable.
              The Mayweathers would tell you the same about this size thing.
              Last edited by Tobi.G; 02-22-2008, 08:00 AM.

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              • tills9191
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                #27
                Originally posted by damian5000
                So, you think Valuev would beat Klitschko?
                now that fight its hard to go against wlad.
                the guy is pretty huge himself, and he has such a long reach, he would easily out box, if not ko valuev.too quick, but mostly, he has the size to compete with valuev.

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                • damian5000
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                  #28
                  I know awhile back there was a thread about a "super heavyweight division". I could actually see that. Say 240+. I think that's more realistic than a height limit.

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                  • TyrantT316
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                    #29
                    we've seen big guys fall to smaller guys in many weight classes including heavyweights...

                    I understand your point, but Wlad just so happens to be skillfull

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                    • tills9191
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by damian5000
                      I know awhile back there was a thread about a "super heavyweight division". I could actually see that. Say 240+. I think that's more realistic than a height limit.
                      yea well, if that's another option, im all for it..
                      but im sick of seeing big men vs little men a lot of the time.
                      gone are the days of the 70's and 80's..when heavyweights were 6'3 and 6'4 at most.

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