Better opponent, Alfonso Gomez or Josh Clottey?

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  • Gareth Ivanovic
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    #21
    I agree that Gomez isn't a cake walk like some are thinking, but I think Clottey would be the better opponent for Cotto. If the two were to fight I would pick Clottey over Gomez in a close fight where Gomez would apply the pressure, but Clottey would land the more effective and clean punches.

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    • FantasticFloyd
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      #22
      No doubt it would be Clottey.

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      • 215Chaingang
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        #23
        Feliciano, Smith, and Manfredo
        are these guys really that good? are you serious? how you get to fight for a belt with less than 20 wins and it not like he running thru his competiton or undefeated

        boxer: Peter Manfredo Jr
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        stance orthodox
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        US ID RI058979
        won 28 (KO 13) + lost 5 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 33

        boxer: Jesse Feliciano
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        boxer: Ishe Smith
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        • Gato2012
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          #24
          Originally posted by 215Chaingang
          are these guys really that good? are you serious? how you get to fight for a belt with less than 20 wins and it not like he running thru his competiton or undefeated

          boxer: Peter Manfredo Jr
          Global ID 18537
          sex male
          birth date 1980-11-26
          age 27
          manager/agent register
          division super middleweight
          rating 15 / 808
          nationality United States
          alias The Pride Of Providence
          residence Pawtucket, Rhode Island, United States
          birth place Providence, RI, USA
          stance orthodox
          height 5′ 10″
          US ID RI058979
          won 28 (KO 13) + lost 5 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 33

          boxer: Jesse Feliciano
          Global ID 78383
          sex male
          birth date 1982-09-20
          age 25
          manager/agent Tony Feliciano

          manager/agent register
          division welterweight
          rating 29 / 1286
          nationality United States
          alias El Rayo
          residence Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
          birth place Los Angeles, CA, USA
          stance orthodox
          height 5′ 9″
          reach 67“
          US ID NV061048
          won 15 (KO 9) + lost 6 (KO 4) + drawn 3 = 24
          biography

          boxer: Ishe Smith
          Global ID 43999
          sex male
          birth date 1978-07-22
          age 29
          manager/agent Greg Leon

          manager/agent register
          division light middleweight
          rating 69 / 1018
          nationality United States
          alias Sugar Shay
          residence Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
          birth place Las Vegas, NV, USA
          birth name Ishe Oluwa Kamau Ali Smith
          stance orthodox
          height 5′ 10″
          reach 71“
          US ID NV058600
          won 19 (KO 9) + lost 2 (KO 0) + drawn 0 = 21
          biography
          I was comparing them to the guys Clottey fought early in his career. There is no comparison what-so-ever. Look up the guys Clottey was fighting. Clottey did beat the great Abbas De Souza 0-1 (0 KOS) from some weird African country i never heard of tho. And i cant forget his win over the equally great Karl Taylor who sported a flashy record of 14-29-3.

          Anyone can build a good record against bums liek the guys Clottey fought. Thats what i was saying. Gomez was matched tougher. And the Manfredo fight, you dont find it somewhat impressive he went toe to toe with a supermiddleweight?

          Guys get shots at titles all the time that dont deserve them. This is nothing new. Cotto deserves a shot at Mayweather, not De La Hoya. Look at the guys people defend their titles against. Its just teh way boxing is. I dont like it, but thats how it is.
          Last edited by Gato2012; 02-21-2008, 11:49 AM.

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          • Silencers
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            #25
            Clottey is a more dangerous opponent, no doubt in my mind.

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            • 215Chaingang
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              #26
              I was comparing them to the guys Clottey fought early in his career. There is no comparison what-so-ever. Look up the guys Clottey was fighting. Clottey did beat the great Abbas De Souza 0-1 (0 KOS) from some weird African country i never heard of tho. And i cant forget his win over the equally great Karl Taylor who sported a flashy record of 14-29-3.

              Anyone can build a good record against bums liek the guys Clottey fought. Thats what i was saying. Gomez was matched tougher. And the Manfredo fight, you dont find it somewhat impressive he went toe to toe with a supermiddleweight?

              Guys get shots at titles all the time that dont deserve them. This is nothing new. Cotto deserves a shot at Mayweather, not De La Hoya. Look at the guys people defend their titles against. Its just teh way boxing is. I dont like it, but thats how it is.
              i agree with you that they both fought some bums. looking good losing is still losing in my book. clottey is the number 1 contender for the belt. gomez is like berto to me is not they turn yet. gomez is not even in oscar league. should floyd be fight him no but that is all about the money? that's it

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              • thiefery
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                #27
                I feel that Gomez is gonna get smashed by Cotto. IF the fight was with Clottey, I think Clottey makes it a lil interesting at the beginning but would def lose by Ko or a majority decision.

                Clottey is the better fight for Cotto, but Gomez is much more of an attraction and sets up his next fight with Margarito..

                BTW is Cotto's belt on the line when he takes on Gomez?

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                • 215Chaingang
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                  #28
                  I feel that Gomez is gonna get smashed by Cotto. IF the fight was with Clottey, I think Clottey makes it a lil interesting at the beginning but would def lose by Ko or a majority decision.

                  Clottey is the better fight for Cotto, but Gomez is much more of an attraction and sets up his next fight with Margarito..

                  BTW is Cotto's belt on the line when he takes on Gomez?
                  that why i wish they have him fight margarito already stop with the b.s.ing

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                    #29
                    Gomez gets Cotto more exposure which Floyd and his groupies keeping claiming is the reason Cotto isnt getting a shot at Floyd, he just doesnt bring in the PPV #'s. Cintron, Quintana, Clottey...hardly anyone from the General public really knows who they are. Yeah they've come out on HBO but so has Gomez and Gomez made quite an impression retiring an old heroe not to mention that Gomez also has had exposure through ESPN. So by using the Floydian logic, this is a good fight that helps him on the way to Mayweatherland. For further detail, click this laaaaank

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                    • Pugilistic™
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                      #30
                      clottey is better

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