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i agree with this statement. the harder puncher will win the round if its often. clean punching does win you rounds but if your punches are landing with more power than the judges are going to look at who landed the most damaging punches. i mean if im a judge and it is a very good round and both men are landing some good punches. in the end im going to look at the punches that actually did something more than just jabbing.
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Twelve moderate punches would beat five hard ones. I think you're scoring rounds wrong if you always take the harder puncher over the more effective one. Accuracy is a big factor, too. If you land three hard punches out of twenty- and I land eight weaker punches out of nine...I'm going to win the round. You seem to favor power too much.Comment
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I think I'm just learning where you focus is as a judge of fights, and your overall mentality regarding boxing. I'm sure plenty of people would agree with you that power is a larger factor and that the point of boxing is to dish out damage and knock the other guy out...
But I can't really say for sure, being as this thread is just another example of my warped mentality.
I guess it's fine to wish Jermain Taylor gets knocked out and becomes another McClellan. Silly me for emphasizing respect for a fighter's well-being despite the violence inherent in the sport. I'm so warped.Comment
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no i ment if its an even round its going to come down to who landed the harder punches. who rocked who. if i landed 8 out of 15 punches and rocked you and hurt you and you hit me with 10 softer punches that i just walked through and hit you with one of those 8 hard punches im going to get the round. i never said that 3 hard punches beat your eight weaker punches. im saying in a close up in the air roiund im going with the punches that did more damage.Comment
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njord what you said is way way way too much of a generalization. It just is, end of story. It indicated nothing except that i'm stating the obvious.Comment
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But power is relative in most cases. Unless a fighter's head is thrown back or he gets obviously hurt you can hit me with harder punches and no one, except the man getting punched, is going to know how much harder you hit. I agree power is a factor in judging 'effective aggression' but it's only one component. I feel like, in most cases, accuracy is going to take the round unless one man gets hurt.Comment
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thats what im saying. im saying in an even round the one who makes the most noise is going to win the round. if im hitting you with hard power shots and you are hitting me with weak jabs and hooks im going to win the round. if your hitting me with soft jabs and im countering you with some good power shots im going to win the round. if its a close round the judge will look at who landed the harder punches.Comment
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Njord: '12 moderate punches beats 5 hard punches'
troll: 'eh i'd say that's overgeneralizing
njord: 'you want Jermaine Taylor to get seriously injured like a certain fighter did against Nigel Benn'Comment
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Really? I thought it was clear. Power is not the stake by which we grade quality and knockouts are not the goal of every fight. We don't need to hope someone gets knocked out to hope we get a good fight, and we don't need to watch two power punchers battle to get amazing action.
Two feather-fisted lightweights engaging in amazing fast-paced, high output tactical boxing is more entertaing than a clinch-fest, power driven heavyweight fight in which, after several rounds of boring action, one man gets KTFO- is that clear?
The purpose of my thread was to indicate people need to respect boxers more and not say things like, "Watch Jermain get knocked out again- more brutally- and have his career ended." Your response was, "That's boxing, pal. Dish out damage until you knock your man out. End of story."
No. Not end of story. That's not the only way people view the sport. It's about more than damage- i.e. my example of the feather-fisted boxers. With your example I'd assume people find Floyd Mayweather boring when he can't knock a guy out, or hate Pauli Malignaggi because he has no power, right?
I'm not generalizing. I'm saying knock outs are fine but you seem to be emphasizing them as the goal of the sport when it's not. Is that clear?
Oh, right. If I'm clear I'm pegged as 'warped'.Comment
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