Discouragement to Calzaghe fans?

[warp1432]

And Calzaghe is what, like 40-0 against rightys?

It's much harder to fight a southpaw then it is an orthodox fighter though.

I don't see how Calzaghe can be compared to Williams other than the punch output. Calzaghe fights nothing like Williams. He always goes in and gets dirty with his head down and starts throwing flurries. Williams never does that. He also adapts pretty well to his opponents, like with Kessler when he started beating Kessler with the jab.

That's an "accidenta"l headbutt waiting to happen. Hopkins always comes in with his head when he throws a right too.

[RichCCFC]

When I look at all the top fighters only two really stand out to me in terms of skill and how they adjust in fights. Those two fighters are Calzaghe and Mayweather.

[Ironside]

It's much harder to fight a southpaw then it is an orthodox fighter though.

True, but because he has beaten all of his southpaw opponents before, doesn't mean it would have to do a lot with fighting Calzaghe. None of them fought like Calzaghe, or were the level of Calzaghe, other than Wright, who was above his natural weight class, and gave trouble to Hopkins.

[Ironside]

That's an "accidenta"l headbutt waiting to happen. Hopkins always comes in with his head when he throws a right too.

I agree, I'm almost 100% sure that there will be heads clashing in this fight. I think Hopkins would be the one getting hurt though, but who knows.

[Fox McCloud]

You have to study INDIVIDUAL fighters and their tendencies. Don't put fighters into classes in order to draw crude analogies.

This is not a good effort from you, Wieny, but I have confidence you'll step your game back up.

I'm not saying Hopkins will beat Calzaghe... the bet in my signature says otherwise... it is more of a shout out to all the Calzaghe worshippers who say that Hopkins will win one pity round that Joe decides to coast in after he has already thrown 1,000 punches. He will not get 1,000 punches off I don't think. Hopkins's straight right hand counter isn't exactly a pillow, and it is going to make Joe very conscious of wildly winging shot after shot.

That's all I'm saying.

[warp1432]

Wright would give trouble even to Calzaghe though. His defense and style would give problems to anyone, even if he was at a higher weight. Wright was fighting at 160 by that time too and Hopkins had to get down to 170.

And I realize none of them fought like Calzaghe, but if Calzaghe wins, it won't because of his workrate. Too me the biggest problem is Joe's speed. You look at the Taylor and Jones fights, their speed gave Hopkins a lot of problems. Hopkins neturalized Taylor's workrate pretty good, but the speed gave him problems. I don't see Calzaghe throwing 100 punches per round. I just hope Hopkins throws more punches though. He needs to.

I just don't see a blowout by Joe. I can see Joe winning (even though I really think he won't), but not a blowout.

[TheGreatA]

Williams still threw 800 punches but the problem was he couldn't hit s***. Quintana worked a lot too, throwing 600 punches.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox-paul-williams-carlos-quintana

Williams has no accuracy, his punches looked sluggish and slow. I thought it was ringrust at first but it went on and on for 12 rounds, he couldn't adapt, it's obvious that Williams still needs some work on his technique.

Calzaghe on the other hand is an experienced and skilled veteran like many have already said.

Hopkins will prove to be a more elusive target than Kessler or Lacy and his clinching tactics will diminish Calzaghe's punch output but the fact remains, Hopkins doesn't have much offense left, he is all defense.
Some people scored that Hopkins vs Wright fight for Winky because Hopkins barely threw punches even though he made Wright look very bad.

Calzaghe will try to make the fight, he will outwork Bernard Hopkins and he might look bad doing it. I just hope he won't get screwed by the judges.

This won't be a very warm welcome to the US for Calzaghe. I'm expecting a dull, foul-filled contest.

The only way I see Calzaghe throwing 1000 punches and destroying Hopkins is if Hopkins is shot and can't see the punches coming anymore.
To Calzaghe's credit, he is fast and he does throw lots of punches when his opponent can't handle it.

[Ironside]

Wright would give trouble even to Calzaghe though. His defense and style would give problems to anyone, even if he was at a higher weight. Wright was fighting at 160 by that time too and Hopkins had to get down to 170.

And I realize none of them fought like Calzaghe, but if Calzaghe wins, it won't because of his workrate. Too me the biggest problem is Joe's speed. You look at the Taylor and Jones fights, their speed gave Hopkins a lot of problems. Hopkins neturalized Taylor's workrate pretty good, but the speed gave him problems. I don't see Calzaghe throwing 100 punches per round. I just hope Hopkins throws more punches though. He needs to.

I just don't see a blowout by Joe. I can see Joe winning (even though I really think he won't), but not a blowout.

Good post, I can agree to that.

[Addison]

Now that you see that counterpunching cut a volume puncher's output in half... are any of you any more worried about Hopkins (probably the best counter puncher in the game right now) than you were before Quintana knocked off Williams.

I wonder how many times I'm going to hear, " YEAH!!! LOL BUT JOE ISN'T PAUL!!! IDIOT!"

It's a complex issue, but long before Hopkins was named as Calzaghe's next opponent Joe stated publicly on more than one occasion that a low volume counter puncher is his stylistic nightmare. You gotta admire him for aggressively pursuing a matchup with his own achilles heel.

[DrewWoodside]

I think Hopking will win no less than 4 rounds.. My faith in Hopkins is growing, but this is similar to when Hatton fought Mayweather. When the fight was signed I was confident in Hatton getting his ass kicked. But the more that fans and hbo reconsidered the same factors and variables over and over the blowout really did seem to narrow.. On fight night I was still sure Hatton had no chance but it seemed a little less remote. By fight night, boxing fans will have convinced themselves that this fight is waay closer than it really is IMO.