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  • CottoOverrated1
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    #21
    Originally posted by DLT
    Williams would be Floyd's toughest test because of his size, reach, punch rate. Then you combine that with the fact that he is a Southpaw which has always given Floyd "some" problems then that obviously spells trouble. Still, for me its still a size issue, meaning that if Floyd was a natural WW then I dont think Williams would give him many problems.


    I would actually like to see Williams fight Zab. I think Quintana could do some things but probally not much. Zab however is great against southpaws because he is a Southpaws. Southpaws do great against orthodox fighters because there not use to seeing leftys but like an orthodox fighter, southpaws also struggle against southpaws because they arent use to seeing them either. Spinks is a great slick southpaw but none of his stuff worked against Zab like it did against other fighters. I wouldnt be shocked at all to see Williams beat Margarito, Cotto, & Cintron but get KO by Zab. Thats how things work.

    If Floyd fought Williams I think he would fight him the way he did Zab. He tried his normal style early against Zab but it didnt work. Then after the first few rounds he switched to the Winky style with the high guard and walked him down. I think he would fight Williams that same exact way. Use the Winky style and come in behind the gloves. Let Williams fire and then counter back. Remember that Williams is good but people do overrate him. Mathysee did give him some trouble before getting KO. He landed on Williams a ton. Williams dominated Margarito early but almost got dominated equally as much in the 2nd half of the fight. If Margarito & Mathysee can land clean on him then so can Floyd. Even Mitchell landed some good shots on him before the end

    god damn you are the biggest nit picker. judah aint KOing anybody. Maybe Ruben Galvan and he couldnt even do that. Margarito only kinda dominated williams in rounds 10 and 11. thats it. people overrate marg's performance that night. paul took him out of his game.

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    • LondonRingRules
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      #22
      Originally posted by CottoOverrated1
      I can see floyd trying this damndest to make it a really boring fight in hopes of pulling out a decision.
      ** Not really.

      Floydy already turned down 8 mil against Margarito because of the risk. I doubt he'd even take 15 mil against Williams, but the fight ain't worth a third of that so they'll never fight. Too much risk for Floydy, a guaranteed beatdown.

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        #23
        Originally posted by crazylegs77
        To me inexperience and being in soft is a factor no matter how long your arms are.
        are you actually tryin to say paul is soft? ok homie, I hope you still have that opinion when he fights cotto or whoever.

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        • DLT
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          #24
          Originally posted by CottoOverrated1
          good point, but wtf? i mean, is that all floyd gonna do? he can jab william's stomach 100 times, but if he aint doing nothing else then paul gets the W. mayweather aint KOing williams either. the fight looks like a good clash of styles match up, but I can see floyd trying this damndest to make it a really boring fight in hopes of pulling out a decision.
          I think Floyd might can stop him. People get to caught up in power stuff when alot of times its really about styles. Margarito is obviously a bigger puncher then Floyd but he also basically didnt land anything until almost the mid point of the fight. Also, Floyd tires you out with his Defense. Williams is known for throwing a million punches so that would leave you to think think that he wouldnt tire against Floyd but still people always tire against Floyd. Even Hatton did when everyone said he wouldnt. Williams also was dead tired at the end of the Margarito fight. Floyd also is much more accurate then anyone he's ever fought and will hit him in different ways then anyone ever hit him. Obviously he's not nearly the hardest puncher he has fought but that doesnt mean he wont stop him.

          Its just like Floyd knocking out Hatton but would anyone be shocked if Cotto went the distance with Hatton? or like Paulie going the distance with Cotto but would you be shocked if Floyd stopped Paulie? Sometimes its more about styles then outright power

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            #25
            Originally posted by CottoOverrated1
            are you actually tryin to say paul is soft? ok homie, I hope you still have that opinion when he fights cotto or whoever.
            Sorry my man, but Williams average opponent has 14 wins 9 losses. That is being in soft.
            Last edited by Crazylegs77; 02-03-2008, 11:27 PM.

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              #26
              This fight might happen in a couple of years, unless we are still watching FMJ/DLH IV or Floyd has retired for real, and by then, if Williams is still at WW and is still improving, I like his chances.

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                #27
                Originally posted by LondonRingRules
                ** Not really.

                Floydy already turned down 8 mil against Margarito because of the risk. I doubt he'd even take 15 mil against Williams, but the fight ain't worth a third of that so they'll never fight. Too much risk for Floydy, a guaranteed beatdown.
                of course, lol. I know that. I was just saying what might happen if they fought. floyd and bob arum avoid williams like the black plague. they can only fight if williams becomes a big name, stays undefeated, and beats cotto if floiyd hasnt foguht cotto at thats point. thats alot of ifs. I'm a huge williams fan. I seen 10 punisher fights. I am also realistic. the fight I really want for paul and one I would be satisfied with is a fight with cotto. thats the biggest most realistic fight that paul can make.

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                • DLT
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by CottoOverrated1
                  god damn you are the biggest nit picker. judah aint KOing anybody. Maybe Ruben Galvan and he couldnt even do that. Margarito only kinda dominated williams in rounds 10 and 11. thats it. people overrate marg's performance that night. paul took him out of his game.
                  Dude, your way too high on Williams. Im a big Williams fan and I hate Margarito but you have to be real about it. Williams dominated early but Margarito basically owned him and had him running in the 2nd half of the fight until round 12. If he didnt dominate round 12 then I bet alot of people wouldve had it a draw or possibly even Margarito winning. I dont remember how I had it but I do know that Margarito did have Williams running alot more in the 2nd half of that fight.

                  Also, Zab has power and I still dont think Williams chin is that great. People act like just because he took shots from Margarito and didnt fall means that he has the best chin in the world. Zab will catch him better then anyone ever has. Spinks went the distance with Taylor and alot of people thought he won. He also went the distance with Mayorga and beat him but Zab knocked him out. Dont look at things in just black & white all the time. Zab could give him problems that others might cant

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                  • No-mas-tias
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                    #29
                    Paul Williams will have his toughest fight to date this Saturday, lets see if he can escape with a W from that fight before even talking about possible matchups with Mayweather or Cotto.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by CottoOverrated1
                      of course, lol. I know that. I was just saying what might happen if they fought. floyd and bob arum avoid williams like the black plague. they can only fight if williams becomes a big name, stays undefeated, and beats cotto if floiyd hasnt foguht cotto at thats point. thats alot of ifs. I'm a huge williams fan. I seen 10 punisher fights. I am also realistic. the fight I really want for paul and one I would be satisfied with is a fight with cotto. thats the biggest most realistic fight that paul can make.
                      I think Cotto would beat Williams because his style is to get in close and go to the body and Williams doesnt seem to throw shots with much power.

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