Do people really think this is the worst robbery ever?

[Fox McCloud]

I'm rewatching Whitaker-Chavez right now... I do remember the fight being a hell of a lot closer than most people make it out to be. Right now I have watched the first 6 rounds, and I have to tell you... I think Chavez won 4 of them. 1, 2, 4 and 6. I do remember Pernell comes on pretty damn strong in the later rounds, but even if Chavez doesn't win another round, it would end up 116-112 on my card.

Now, I'm not the best judge in the world, or probably even in the upper half, but I can tell you that it means something when I see a brawler/swarmer win a round from a counterpunching slickster, because I usually see a slickster avoiding most of the incoming damage and returning some of his own, yet I still have Chavez winning 4 rounds.

But seriously... people act like this fight was a 12 round to 0 assbeating by Whitaker, and truth is, it wasn't. He clearly won. He clearly got screwed. It clearly was not even close to the worst robbery.

[Silencers]

It was a robbery, not the worst robbery ever or even of Whitaker's career. I scored it something like 7-4 or 8-3 for Whitaker.

[Pico Hollywood]

it was the most memorable robbery with more on the line I think, I remember my dad was so pissed after the fight ended.. The whole Boxing world was shocked... never mind i was think of the Taylor- Chavez

[Fox McCloud]

it was the most memorable robbery with more on the line I think, I remember my dad was so pissed after the fight ended.. The whole Boxing world was shocked... never mind i was think of the Taylor- Chavez

Now Chavez-Taylor should not have even been remotely close on the scorecards...

Chavez definately was having some good rounds against Whitaker.

[Darkstar]

When it comes Chavez-Taylor is was controversial. But The Knockdown was was real and so was the KO. Besides they had a rematch and Taylor got KOed again.

Isnt it funny the most "controversial robberys" always happen to Whitaker? IMHO he lost agaisnt Chavez and DLH. No doubt about it to me. The question is his style and I guess will always be debated.

[Ray*]

The fight WAS a robbery and the fact that they scored it as a DRAW just goes to support the argument, Whittker/Ramirez was even worse but make no mistake Whittker/Chavez deserves the Ring Magazines "Robbery of the decade" award.

[ferocity]

Chavez also won round 12. Unless of course you'll admit Whitiker won the 12 round, come on how many think Whitiker won the 12 round?

Whitiker v. Ramierez 1' should be looked at again.

And Whitiker was given a gift decesion against Wilfredo Rivera, a fighter most forgot.

[ferocity]

And Robbery of the Decade? LOL! That should go to Lewis v. Holyfield 1 'a fight i was sure was very one sided.

[Ray*]

1993-09-10 : Alamodome, San Antonio, TX, USA : Pernell Whitaker drew with Julio Cesar Chavez by PTS in round 12 of 12
World Boxing Council Welterweight Title (1st defense of Whitaker)

Referee: Joe Cortez

Judges scoring: Jack Woodruff (115-113 Whitaker), Mickey Vann (115-115), Franz Marti (115-115)

Weights: Whitaker 145 lbs, Chavez 142 lbs



[edit] Prelude
- In the early 1990s one of the fights brewing in the minds of boxing fans was Whitaker-Chavez. Both fighters were considered two of the sports most elite champions and both fighters were ranked within the top 5 pound for pound list. Whitaker was seen to be one slickest boxers at the time and Chavez was an undefeated fighter who had already won titles in three weight divisions. This bout marked Chavez's desire to win a title in a fourth weight class, a feat at this point that very few fighters had accomplished.

[edit] The Fight
- The bout turned out to be no easy task for Chavez. The first few rounds were relatively even but after the fourth round Whitaker's elusiveness and quickness seemed to be befuddling Chavez. Chavez showed signs of fatigue throughout the fight and had difficulty cutting off the ring and catching Whitaker. In addition, Chavez's punch output dropped severely. Furthurmore, Chavez world famous inside game was ineffective as Whitaker, not known for his inside game, was beating Chavez in the inside exchanges. Whitaker was not known for his punching power but did stun Chavez a few times in the fight with hard left hands. The fight was held in front of thousands of Chavez supporters in San Antonio but even they became dead silent as they started to see Whitaker take force and dominate Chavez with little trouble.

[edit] Controversey
- Before the scorecards were announced the Showtime television commentators were in unanimous agreement that Whitaker had won the bout and didn't even consider it to be a close contest. Just later, the scorecards were announced and the fight was declared a draw. This prompted some boos even among some of Chavez fans as they recognized that Whitaker was the true winner of the contest. Several members of the media, such as The Ring magazine and Sports Illustrated were disgusted with the decision. Later on several journalists complained of the fact that the WBC appointed the judges to the fight rather then the independent Texas Boxing & Wrestling Program. This promoted widespread calls of corruption for the world titles to banish this practice; however nothing was done and this practice is still in effect today.

[Chairman L-mao]

When it comes Chavez-Taylor is was controversial. But The Knockdown was was real and so was the KO. Besides they had a rematch and Taylor got KOed again.

Isnt it funny the most "controversial robberys" always happen to Whitaker? IMHO he lost agaisnt Chavez and DLH. No doubt about it to me. The question is his style and I guess will always be debated.

That's because these kids in the Floyd era look at fights differently, and judge past fights on their ice-skating standards. They forget the goal is to beat the other guy up.

Remember how badly Oscar was beating Whitaker? A few months back someone posted a gif of Whitaker slipping a few punches, of course without throwing any back, and said look at Whitaker "owning" Oscar. You can't "own" someone in a fight without punching them