A fighters chin being exposed.

[oovavu]

I don't think it matters alot of the time if a fighter has been floored or not by a big punch becuase alot of the time its the best outcome as the referee will come in and stop you taking further punishment you might lose a point but its better than staying on your feet and getting pummeled till a stoppage, the main thing is what the figher does after being put down or rocked that determines chin more than anything imo.

[THE REED]

Yes and No. The reason you hear that a fighter's chin has been "exposed" is because up unitil that fight he's never really been hit. Roy is actually a great example, he went so long without being really hit that no one knew what would happen when he did get hit.

Antonio Tarver I think showed that Roy doesn't have a good chin and his speed and boxing ability has carried him throught his career. You can see that Roy isn't as ready to mix it up as he once was and I'm sure the Tarver KO comes to him from time to time.

Some fighter's are just born with incredibly hard heads, it's just the way it is. There was an actual study one time that compaired the different races and one of the conclusions was that people that decended from the Asian continent have thicker skulls, no bull****. That's why anthropologist can dig up some bones and tell you the race and gender almost immediatly.

I think heart does play a part in it as well. If you are timid and don't like to get hit, it will affect you because you are "scared" of getting ko'd. Just like when a martial artist screams before he hits the board it gives him more power, the same goes if you are scared or timid it will affect you physicaly.

The mind has alot more to do with it than you think, it's not just about physics.

im not trying to make this thread about roy like ive said countless times... but ill say this... the shot tarver landed on roy would have KOd anyone... it was a haymaker hook that landed RIGHT on his jaw... i firmly believe that... but this isnt about roy for 32nd time.

[Jim Jeffries]

Ray Mercer was thought to have an iron jaw until he was old and finally stopped. I think as fighters age, they lose the reflexes to block and avoid punches, plus they lose their balance, and go down easier.

In Peter's case, he was thought to have an iron jaw, partly because he ate a ton of right hands from Wlad (though he was wobbled in the 12th by a left hook) without dropping. Against McCline, who is not known to be a huge puncher, he was dropped 3 times, so he can no longer be thought of as having an iron jaw (once you can make an excuse for.) But by no means would I say his jaw is "exposed," at least not until someone actually knocks him out.

[Rane-Ex54]

I hear this all the time... Every fighter has a rock solid chin, until there knocked down... THEN, there chin has been exposed... what the hell is that?

I think theres two different types of fighters, ones who have gotten hit with a punch hard enough to knock them down... and ones who havent.

Obviously some fighters can take a harder hit than others. I understand this. Im sure Carlos Baldomir can take a harder punch than the late Diego Corrales, even with the weight differential.

Take Sam Peter for instance, all the sudden his chin has been exposed? Just because hes been knocked down, he cant take a punch now?

Or like Carlos Baldomir... Were almost made to believe there isnt a welterweight out there who can put him on the canvas. Or is it, he just hasnt been hit with one of those perfect shots yet.

Everyones human... if you get hit on the right spot, right on the jaw line, with the right power... its almost like a short circuit... its doesnt really matter how much heart you have, it literally will short circuit your legs... I think theres those fighters who HAVE been hit like that, and those that haven't.

Cotto comes to mind in this particular subject for me. Hes shown he can definitely take a punch, from Zab Judah, and Shane Mosley.. two hard hitting WW's, but has been on the canvas before... does that mean he has a glass chin? or that he was just hit with one of those perfect punches.

I think everyone has a "glass" chin to a certain extent... They just haven't been hit right yet. Your take?


Side Note to those that know me: This wasnt based on Roy... it was based on the below comment.



This isnt a low blow to Ballistic either.

Knock Downs don't expose someones chin, But I believe getting knocked the F out does for certain fighters. To Tell you the truth I think its more mental. If you've been a awesome boxer for so long and then you got KTFO, you now know how it feels, and now know it can happen!! Plus other boxers now know theres a possiblity of KO you out. Some boxers take it well, some don't. Not to call out roy, but I think those 2 KO's still make him a lil cautious & not as much of a threat anymore. Ya know!

[Jim Jeffries]

Knock Downs don't expose someones chin, But I believe getting knocked the F out does for certain fighters. To Tell you the truth I think its more mental. If you've been a awesome boxer for so long and then you got KTFO, you now know how it feels, and now know it can happen!! Plus other boxers now know theres a possiblity of KO you out. Some boxers take it well, some don't. Not to call out roy, but I think those 2 KO's still make him a lil cautious & not as much of a threat anymore. Ya know!

Then how you explain Wlad Klitschko's "glass jaw" stigma that he's carried for some time now, he's never been counted out on the canvas?

[THE REED]

Ray Mercer was thought to have an iron jaw until he was old and finally stopped. I think as fighters age, they lose the reflexes to block and avoid punches, plus they lose their balance, and go down easier.

In Peter's case, he was thought to have an iron jaw, partly because he ate a ton of right hands from Wlad (though he was wobbled in the 12th by a left hook) without dropping. Against McCline, who is not known to be a huge puncher, he was dropped 3 times, so he can no longer be thought of as having an iron jaw (once you can make an excuse for.) But by no means would I say his jaw is "exposed," at least not until someone actually knocks him out.

i still think peter has an iron jaw...

[jabsRstiff]

Julian Jackson was said to have a weak chin. I always thought it was more of a case of his defensive liabilities. He was overcommitted to his offense, & this left him open to a lot of guys' biggest punches.

[MikeBrew328]

I don't think Shane Mosley's "chin" was exposed by being knocked down. It was more about Vernon Forrest's heigh, similar to Taylor getting knocked out by Pavlik.

[Scott9945]

I don't think Shane Mosley's "chin" was exposed by being knocked down. It was more about Vernon Forrest's heigh, similar to Taylor getting knocked out by Pavlik.

That nasty headbutt that Forrest gave Shane right before the knockdown helped things along too.

[THE REED]

yeah i agree w that