Prime Nard vs These Prime fighters, who wins?

[CaRnAgEViOLaToR]

i agree with hopkins toney being 50-50 but i lean towards bhop

[Pugilistic™]

He was more closer to his prime in the De La Hoya fight. We have to remember that he had all of the middlweight titles and was number one pound for pound until he lost to Taylor.

His performances in his fights from de la hoya to Taylor i wouldn't call prime.

Having all the titles and being number 1 P4P doesn't change the fact that physically he wasn't in his prime.

[Money May MOFO]

His performances in his fights from de la hoya to Taylor i wouldn't call prime.

Having all the titles and being number 1 P4P doesn't change the fact that physically he wasn't in his prime.

this is true Nard was not an Elite fighter at this point he was still very good but no longer Elite

a prime Hopkins would of knocked JT out in 8 rounds

[slicksouthpaw16]

His performances in his fights from de la hoya to Taylor i wouldn't call prime.

Having all the titles and being number 1 P4P doesn't change the fact that physically he wasn't in his prime.

There have been plenty of prime elite great fighters that have not even came close to accomplishing that. Hopkins was slightly past his best, but no where near totally past his prime or shot. Two years after that, he went up to light heavyweight and beat a younger recognized light heavyweight champion in his peak in Tarver.

[slicksouthpaw16]

this is true Nard was not an Elite fighter at this point he was still very good but no longer Elite

a prime Hopkins would of knocked JT out in 8 rounds

He sure went on to beat two elites( Tarver and Wright) and even gave this era'a greatest super middlweight life and death and lost a controversal split decision and had many people believeing that he won the fight. He was past his prime against Calzaghe cleary, but not much past it against De La Hoya.

[Pugilistic™]

There have been plenty of prime elite great fighters that have not even came close to accomplishing that. Hopkins was slightly past his best, but no where near totally past his prime or shot. Two years after that, he went up to light heavyweight and beat a younger recognized light heavyweight champion in his peak in Tarver.

slightly past his best was what i was looking for.

Tarver was not in his peak against Hopkins, his fights after Hopkins proved that he is past his best.

[slicksouthpaw16]

slightly past his best was what i was looking for.

Tarver was not in his peak against Hopkins, his fights after Hopkins proved that he is past his best.

Tarver never had any wars and he also started late in boxing, he was cleary in his prime. Where he went wrong was when he had to loss all of that weight from the Rockie movie and make the limit to fight Hopkins. Before that, he just came off of his third win over Jones and beat Glen Johnson in their rematch before that.

[Pugilistic™]

Tarver never had any wars and he also started late in boxing, he was cleary in his prime. Where he went wrong was when he had to loss all of that weight from the Rockie movie and make the limit to fight Hopkins. Before that, he just came off of his third win over Jones and beat Glen Johnson in their rematch before that.

I completely forgot about Tarver having to lose weight, that was his downfall.

back to your point about Toney beating Hopkins. Had toney faced the Hopkins that fought DLH he would of won because of Hopkins being too inactive. The Hopkins that fought Johnson or Trinidad would of gave Toney all he could handle. I would say Hopkins from 96 to 2003 was a prime Bernard. After his fight with Joppy he changed his style to a lower workrate over defensive one punch at a time style.

[S.G.]

Hopkins vs Eubank
Hopkins vs Toney (pick 'em)
Hopkins vs Benn
Hopkins vs Mcclellan
Hopkins vs Collins
Hopkins vs Calzaghe
Hopkins vs Jones

bolded......

[warp1432]

Hopkins vs Eubank
Hopkins vs Toney
Hopkins vs Benn
Hopkins vs Mcclellan
Hopkins vs Collins
Hopkins vs Calzaghe
Hopkins vs Jones

This would be mine.