Prime Nard vs These Prime fighters, who wins?
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I don't know. But I do know that Froch was supposed to be sparring with Howard Eastman for six weeks in Miami before he fought Hopkins, and Eastman lasted two weeks with Froch. He couldn't take anymore. He could barely lay a glove on Froch and was getting beat up in the process. I do know that. And I do know that was Froch's 75% and Eastman's 100%. And I also know that Froch hasn't even got out of first gear as a pro yet...Comment
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Hopkins vs Eubank - Bhop
Hopkins vs Toney - Bhop
Hopkins vs Benn - Bhop
Hopkins vs Mcclellan - Bhop
Hopkins vs Collins- Bhop
Hopkins vs Calzaghe - Calzaghe (debatable though)
Hopkins vs Jones - Jones
I think a prime Hopkins takes everyone but Jones and Calzaghe.Comment
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hahaha No its not, Check out the picture below, Your old name was JoeCalzaghe right?? Look at the points, its prob someone elses account since you vacated the name...
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Hopkins vs Eubank = Eubank
Hopkins vs Toney = Hopkins
Hopkins vs Benn = Hopkins
Hopkins vs Mcclellan = Hopkins
Hopins vs Collins = Hopkins
Hopkins vs Calzaghe = Calzaghe
Hopkins vs Jones = JonesComment
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I'm hoping for good things from Carl, I will be really pissed off if he becomes an English Mundine and fails to live up to his potential. He's got power and skill, I'll be sold when he takes one flush from a top five guy and walks through it; if he does, sky's the limit cause he will knock few out that's for sureI don't know. But I do know that Froch was supposed to be sparring with Howard Eastman for six weeks in Miami before he fought Hopkins, and Eastman lasted two weeks with Froch. He couldn't take anymore. He could barely lay a glove on Froch and was getting beat up in the process. I do know that. And I do know that was Froch's 75% and Eastman's 100%. And I also know that Froch hasn't even got out of first gear as a pro yet...Comment
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Hes not that good carl froch will be exposed soon enough, let him take on someone with a pulse and you will see. I have lucian bute beating him, lucian bute throws probably double the amount of punches carl does. Carl tries to land bombs all the time, and doesn't throw enough punches.I'm hoping for good things from Carl, I will be really pissed off if he becomes an English Mundine and fails to live up to his potential. He's got power and skill, I'll be sold when he takes one flush from a top five guy and walks through it; if he does, sky's the limit cause he will knock few out that's for sureComment
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The Hopkins hate on these forums is ridiculous.
Prime Hopkins vs Glen Johnson. People seem to only remember the old, 40 year old Bernard who throws 20 punches a round.
Young Hopkins vs young Roy Jones.
Hopkins KO's Trinidad.
Hopkins stops Antwun Echols with a dislocated shoulder.
I'm with you on this Manchine. I'm always stunned by the Hopkins hate on this forum. The guy is a really damn good fighter and I still can't understand people not being awed by the guy fighting as good as he does at age 43!!!
If everyone were in their prime in these fights I would take Hopkins in all except against Jones and with Calzaghe and Toney being a real pick 'em fight. Could go either way if all are in top form. The whole Welterweight crap is getting pretty boring as well. He fought two! 'Holy ****! He's been fighting blown up WW's his whole career and thats the only reason he's famous!!!!' Get real!
I honestly can't believe some people are actually picking Benn over Hopkins!? Are you guys serious? Takin' the piss? Benn was murdered by Watson in five and beaten by Eubank twice! Hopkins would have a field day with Benn who fights perfect for Hopkins. Comes straight in swinging with nothing but power...Oh thats right, I forgot, Hopkins has been knocked out by heaps of guys and his defense is ****!....
-Anyway, the fight with Eubank would be a good, hard, close fight with Hopkins taking a close UD.
-Against Toney I really do think it could go either way with the edge going to Hopkins though. If it was at SMW I would give the edge to Toney but here I think Hopkins' work rate would be the big difference. Hopkins SD.
-Hopkins vs Benn would be a whitewash with Benn looking good and aggressive in the first few rounds but after not landing anything and quickly tiring, Hopkins comes on late and gets the KO or TKO around the tenth.
-Against McClellan it could be a good fight. He had the boxing skills to go with his power unlike some of the other power punchers (Benn) and might be able to use them to some decent advantage. I still think it would go to Hopkins though but there could be some close moments. UD.
-Would be a very similar fight as with Benn but Collins would last the distance in a scrappy affair.
-Calzaghe has the boxing skills, evasiveness and output to test Hopkins. Like Toney I think this could go either way maybe with a slight advantage to Hopkins as we're talking primes (even though they fought in different divisions
). Difficult fight to pick though.
-Jones wins this one but in a much closer fight than their first one. Hopkins has gained in smarts and uses some great rough house tactics to bust up Jones eye and catch him with a lot of straight rights. An awkward, close, semi-boring fight that shows Jones' weakness' but still in a win.Last edited by BennyST; 01-30-2008, 06:30 PM.Comment
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Your right on most of that, but he wouldn't beat Joe not with his left intact. For someone with an obviously sound knowledge of boxing, you seem to have a downer on him, it may be and England Wales thing? Maybe its your frustration that its unlikely Frochy will get the chance to prove himself against him?? who kows, but keep the posts up, they are always intersting, even if we don't agree on everythingA young Hopkins completely out-works Eubank and wins every round
An older Hopkins loses to Eubank over the 12. Eubank came up with a style that was impossible to 'box' and win unless you're a southpaw or you're name is Roy 'Reflexes' Jones
Toney is quicker, more evasive, even less telegraphed and harder hitting as well as cuter inside and would catch an in-coming Hopkins with body to head combo's. Toney.
Hopkins out-boxes Benn
The jury is out on McClellan. All we saw of him was basically just jumping in and knocking everyone out in one or two rounds
Hopkins beats Collins easily. Simply better in every department other than maybe grittiness and toughness and awkwardness and natural stamina and natural strength and ****
Hopkins lands lead and counter right hands all night long on Calzaghe's jaw. Eubank and Hopkins are similar in that they both like to lean in with the right hand, difference was that Eubank couldn't do it against a southpaw (it would turn into a roundhouse right) and Hopkins can
Jones would always beat HopkinsComment
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