Should punches thrown while a fighters going backwards be scored differently?

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  • Weebler I
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    #41
    Originally posted by dfwtx
    no i dont think so, honestly walking backwards, being aware of your postition in the ring keeping a tight defense, and still LANDING punches deserves as much credit as somebody barreling forward throwing nonstop in my opinion
    fair enough, but you're not taking into account the power of the punches

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    • Fox McCloud
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      #42
      Originally posted by silencers98
      But if the Wright left lands repeatedly and a Taylor right which has more power lands half the time Wright's left does I score it for Winky. (I'm just using this as an example.) Different people see and score fights differently, I respect that.
      If Winky lands more left hands, then he is doing a good job neutralizing Taylor's power. But you are right, different people, different philosophies.

      Originally posted by The Weebler II
      I didn't watch Taylor/Wright
      Wright landed more. Taylor landed harder.

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      115-113 Taylor
      115-113 Wright
      114-114

      You actually should watch it... it's a damn good fight (for having Winky and Taylor in it, both of who have had snoozers recently). CircleInsideABox uploaded it, and I know that you are worried about F'ing up your computer by dl'ing a virus, but EVERYONE on this forum can tell you that Circle uploads quality stuff. He always shows pictures of the fights he uploads too, so you can see that is what he actually uploaded.

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        #43
        What about if the fighter lands while moving sideways? What a silly thread.

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          #44
          Originally posted by NachoMan
          What about if the fighter lands while moving sideways? What a silly thread.
          You're missing the point.

          The thread was more about punch volume v punch power and the method of scoring.

          A retreating fighter generally puts less power into his punches.

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            #45
            Originally posted by DWiens421
            Wright landed more. Taylor landed harder.

            Scorecards
            115-113 Taylor
            115-113 Wright
            114-114

            You actually should watch it... it's a damn good fight (for having Winky and Taylor in it, both of who have had snoozers recently). CircleInsideABox uploaded it, and I know that you are worried about F'ing up your computer by dl'ing a virus, but EVERYONE on this forum can tell you that Circle uploads quality stuff. He always shows pictures of the fights he uploads too, so you can see that is what he actually uploaded.
            Would this result not be the exception rather than the rule?

            Judges tend to go along with the compubox, don't they? save where a fighter is visibly hurt.
            Last edited by Weebler I; 01-23-2008, 10:36 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              Would this result not be the exception rather than the rule?

              Judges tend to go along with the compubox, don't they?
              No, the judges don't see compubox. They do tend to score punch-for-punch, unless it is obvious that one fighter is landing harder than the other. There is also the whole pre-conceived notions part too... I'll bet Kermit Cintron was getting a lot more credit than he should have been getting against Jesse Feliciano. His hand was broken, but he was landing right hands, and judges were used to see Cintron's right hands stove in people's skulls and stuff, so...

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                #47
                power punches are judged buyknockouts and how are the judges supposed to know how hard a punch is landing.floyd was backing up when he knocked hatton out. just because your backing up doesn't mean you don't hit hard and just because your the aggressor doesn't mean your landing clean punches

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by letsgobrady
                  power punches are judged buyknockouts and how are the judges supposed to know how hard a punch is landing.floyd was backing up when he knocked hatton out. just because your backing up doesn't mean you don't hit hard and just because your the aggressor doesn't mean your landing clean punches
                  You can't tell a hard punch when it lands?

                  That is a concern for you... you should get your eyes checked.

                  Powerful punches tend to actually move the opponent most of the time.

                  Even though Chavez wasn't hurt at any time by Meldrick Taylor, his head did spin around a few times from a Taylor shot. Those are the power punches.

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                  • jcarr71
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                    #49
                    You are making a generalization that is simply not true. Walking backwards does not make your punches weaker. If anything your opponent walking into them makes them stronger. Also, backing up doesn't make you impossible to hit. Look at Cotto/Malinaggi. Ring generalship when mastered is the most beautiful thing in boxing to long time fans. You're talking about penalizing for it effectively when it really is the hardest skill to master.

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                    • NachoMan
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Weebler II
                      You're missing the point.

                      The thread was more about punch volume v punch power and the method of scoring.

                      A retreating fighter generally puts less power into his punches.
                      Hmm, maybe you could edit the thread title.

                      Originally posted by The Weebler II
                      Should punches thrown while a fighters going backwards be scored differently?

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