Should punches thrown while a fighters going backwards be scored differently?

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  • Ironside
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    #11
    Originally posted by The Weebler II
    Even if it has relatively little force? this doesn't seem sensible.
    A hit is a hit.. the force of the hit shouldn't make a difference in scoring it a punch or not if it's a clean shot. The punches you mention are used to keep the opponent at bay. You can't just throw bombs the whole time in order to win, by your theory, the jab, which is the weakest punch in the sport, would be useless in scoring.

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      #12
      Originally posted by TopDawg
      If the punches are landing, then it doesn't matter.
      It encourages defensive fights and a poor spectacle for audiences. Weak punches by a retreater are being scored equally to heavier punches by an aggressor, this can't be right.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Ironside
        A hit is a hit.. the force of the hit shouldn't make a difference in scoring it a punch or not if it's a clean shot. The punches you mention are used to keep the opponent at bay. You can't just throw bombs the whole time in order to win, by your theory, the jab, which is the weakest punch in the sport, would be useless in scoring.
        There's a difference between a jab standing your ground and persistently throwing punches while your retreating

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        • TopDawg
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          #14
          Originally posted by The Weebler II
          It encourages defensive fights and a poor spectacle for audiences. Weak punches by a retreater are being scored equally to heavier punches by an aggressor, this can't be right.
          But if the boxer out of the 2 is landing the cleaner shots, and by a larger margin then it should be no problem to score the ight. If it's close though than I could see where the aggresor wins.

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            #15
            Originally posted by TopDawg
            But if the boxer out of the 2 is landing the cleaner shots, and by a larger margin then it should be no problem to score the ight. If it's close though than I could see where the aggresor wins.
            But I've seen fights scored over 12 rounds where the aggressor doesn't win. A higher volume of weaker punches seems to take precedence in judges scoring.

            I think judges are under a lot of pressure and the compubox doesn't help.

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              #16
              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              But its fair to say judges scorecards often follow the volume of punches landed, particularly in the big fights.
              THERE is the problem with judging, not the whole going backwards thing.

              Whether a fighter is charging in or backing up, a punch is a punch. Punches are different though, and should be scored accordingly.

              I would definately give Ricardo Mayorga more credit for a power shot than Cory Spinks (assuming they both landed with the same cleanness), because Ricardo is a lot more powerful.

              The weak, pitter-patter fighters need to land a lot more punches to keep up, which is why they land more than 100 more punches in fights that they win.

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              • Ironside
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                #17
                Originally posted by The Weebler II
                There's a difference between a jab standing your ground and persistently throwing punches while your retreating
                Still doesn't make any sense though, most tall fighters win decisions going mostly backwards, you say they should not count the scores when they're throwing those punches. That would force them to go toe to toe against the shorter fighter, making it very hard to win.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Ironside
                  Still doesn't make any sense though, most tall fighters win decisions going mostly backwards, you say they should not count the scores when they're throwing those punches. That would force them to go toe to toe against the shorter fighter, making it very hard to win.
                  Lennox Lewis was a tall fighter, but I don't remember him going backwards much. I certainly don't recall him going backwards at a rate of knots like some fighters.

                  I'm not saying a fighter should go toe to toe all fight but it seems that throwing a high volume of weaker punches on the backfoot pays dividends and I don't feel that is in the spirit of boxing.

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                  • Ironside
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Weebler II
                    Lennox Lewis was a tall fighter, but I don't remember him going backwards much. I certainly don't recall him going backwards at a rate of knots like some fighters.

                    I'm not saying a fighter should go toe to toe all fight but it seems that throwing a high volume of weaker punches on the backfoot pays dividends and I don't feel that is in the spirit of boxing.
                    Boxing is hit and don't get hit. I guess that is a matter of opinion then.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Ironside
                      Boxing is hit and don't get hit. I guess that is a matter of opinion then.
                      I appreciate that. But it seems that, hit weak while retreating is a better tactic to score points than actually going after your opponent and hitting hard.

                      Surely that can't be right or does it encourage a good spectacle.
                      Last edited by Weebler I; 01-23-2008, 09:19 PM.

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