Should punches thrown while a fighters going backwards be scored differently?

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  • Silencers
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Weebler II
    An aggressive heavier puncher is then penalised for his taking the fight to his opponent who throws weaker shots at a higher volume
    If the higher volume puncher lands clean. The main component that I judge fights by is clean punching.

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      #32
      Originally posted by silencers98
      If the higher volume puncher lands clean. The main component that I judge fights by is clean punching.
      So, i could run around tapping you all night racking up a high punch volume which doesn't hurt you whereas you could land heavy hurting punches but I would be the guy that wins?

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        #33
        Originally posted by The Weebler II
        So, i could run around tapping you all night racking up a high punch volume which doesn't hurt you whereas you could land heavy hurting punches but I would be the guy that wins?
        Yes, look at what Malignaggi does, or Mayweather sometimes. You can be a powerful puncher but you have to be effective as well. If a guy lands 5 jabs to 1 of your right hands, of course I'd score it for the guy who's landing at a higher rate than you are.

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          #34
          Originally posted by silencers98
          Yes, look at what Malignaggi does, or Mayweather sometimes. You can be a powerful puncher but you have to be effective as well. If a guy lands 5 jabs to 1 of your right hands, of course I'd score it for the guy who's landing at a higher rate than you are.
          I didn't want to bring any names into it, but I will say regarding Mayweather, heavy punches are rarely landed on him so he tends to win fairly through punch volume. Hatton was the first in a long time to get through to him.

          So 5 light jabs score more than one heavy punch?

          Thats the way the scoring system works, but I think its wrong.

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            #35
            Originally posted by silencers98
            That's a case of a fighter being hurt, of course I'd score it differently but if the guy walks through the big right hand and lands a 4 punch combination that didn't have much power on it, I'll score it for him.
            Well I score that too, which is why I said damage.

            A pitter-patter puncher is going to have to pitch a near-shutout (obviously a bit exaggerated) on Julio Cesar Chavez to win a round, because he doesn't get hurt, like ever.

            If a fighter walks through a punch, it obviously wasn't very damaging.

            Hurt scores, but power does too. I'm certainly not going to give the same amount of credit for a Wright left hand as I would to a Taylor right hand... which is why that fight was closer than people want to admit (although I had Wright winning).

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              #36
              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              I didn't want to bring any names into it, but I will say regarding Mayweather, heavy punches are rarely landed on him so he tends to win fairly through punch volume. Hatton was the first in a long time to get through to him.

              So 5 light jabs score more than one heavy punch?

              Thats the way the scoring system works, but I think its wrong.
              Taylor-Wright shows that that isn't exactly how the scoring system is...

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                #37
                yea good point

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by DWiens421
                  Well I score that too, which is why I said damage.

                  A pitter-patter puncher is going to have to pitch a near-shutout (obviously a bit exaggerated) on Julio Cesar Chavez to win a round, because he doesn't get hurt, like ever.

                  If a fighter walks through a punch, it obviously wasn't very damaging.

                  Hurt scores, but power does too. I'm certainly not going to give the same amount of credit for a Wright left hand as I would to a Taylor right hand... which is why that fight was closer than people want to admit (although I had Wright winning).
                  But if the Wright left lands repeatedly and a Taylor right which has more power lands half the time Wright's left does I score it for Winky. (I'm just using this as an example.) Different people see and score fights differently, I respect that.

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                    #39
                    no i dont think so, honestly walking backwards, being aware of your postition in the ring keeping a tight defense, and still LANDING punches deserves as much credit as somebody barreling forward throwing nonstop in my opinion

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DWiens421
                      Taylor-Wright shows that that isn't exactly how the scoring system is...
                      I didn't watch Taylor/Wright

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