Should punches thrown while a fighters going backwards be scored differently?

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  • Ironside
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    #21
    Originally posted by The Weebler II
    I appreciate that. But it seems that, hit weak while retreating is a better tactic to score points than actually going after your opponent and hitting hard.

    Surely that can't be right or does it encourage a good spectacle.
    IMO, it depends on the fighter, if the fighter has power, he's naturally going to go for the KO. If the fighter doesn't have power, he has to pile up those points and get a decision by steering clear of the opponent's power. Also, the way I see it, the fighter retreating has to do a lot of work keeping his strong opponent at bay, if he hits him, say 20 times in a round, but the opponent in the same round caught him 7 times with strong flush shots, but he took them well, would you really give the stronger guy the round?

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      #22
      Originally posted by The Weebler II
      I appreciate that. But it seems that, hit weak while retreating is a better tactic to score points than actually going after your opponent and hitting hard.

      Surely that can't be right or does it encourage a good spectacle.
      It doesn't encourage excitement, certainly not.

      A parallel can be viewed in baseball though.

      Beating a team 27-24 is still the same win as beating a team 1-0. As long as a fighter ends up doing more damage in round, then they win.

      There is some beauty in watching a boxer manage not to get really hit by a devastating puncher, even if the boxer is only doing minimal damage.

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        #23
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        THERE is the problem with judging, not the whole going backwards thing.

        Whether a fighter is charging in or backing up, a punch is a punch. Punches are different though, and should be scored accordingly.

        I would definately give Ricardo Mayorga more credit for a power shot than Cory Spinks (assuming they both landed with the same cleanness), because Ricardo is a lot more powerful.

        The weak, pitter-patter fighters need to land a lot more punches to keep up, which is why they land more than 100 more punches in fights that they win.
        You make some good points. Should a one punch from a heavier puncher be numerically equated to 10 punches from a weak puncher?

        If they're doing the same amount of damage why should the weaker puncher score more points especially when he is not the aggressor and is retreating?

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          #24
          Originally posted by The Weebler II
          You make some good points. Should a one punch from a heavier puncher be numerically equated to 10 punches from a weak puncher?

          If they're doing the same amount of damage why should the weaker puncher score more points especially when he is not the aggressor and is retreating?
          1 to 10? That's a little exaggeration isn't it? I think it takes a lot more skill landing 10 punches than landing 1. Even if they are weak. He's hitting the target. While the 1 punch could just be a lucky punch.

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            #25
            Originally posted by The Weebler II
            You make some good points. Should a one punch from a heavier puncher be numerically equated to 10 punches from a weak puncher?

            If they're doing the same amount of damage why should the weaker puncher score more points especially when he is not the aggressor and is retreating?
            I agree with all of that except for what you typed after especially.

            If Mayorga's punch is worth 10 of Spinks's punches, then Spinks has to land 10 times as many shots in a round as Mayorga +1 to get the round in my book.

            Punching power is definately something that should be scored, but it's not the only thing that should be scored.

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              #26
              I don't think punching power should be an equation in scoring fights, sometimes fighters win fights through activity and I don't believe different kinds of punches should be scored differently, a punch landed is a punch, judges have problems scoring without these added confusions.

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                #27
                Originally posted by silencers98
                I don't think punching power should be an equation in scoring fights, sometimes fighters win fights through activity and I don't believe different kinds of punches should be scored differently, a punch landed is a punch, judges have problems scoring without these added confusions.
                So you really score a straight right that is walked through the same as a straight right that makes a fighter stumble back and drop his hands?

                I don't understand that.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Ironside
                  1 to 10? That's a little exaggeration isn't it? I think it takes a lot more skill landing 10 punches than landing 1. Even if they are weak. He's hitting the target. While the 1 punch could just be a lucky punch.
                  I was just throwing a figure out there. You see what I'm getting at though.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by DWiens421
                    So you really score a straight right that is walked through the same as a straight right that makes a fighter stumble back and drop his hands?

                    I don't understand that.
                    That's a case of a fighter being hurt, of course I'd score it differently but if the guy walks through the big right hand and lands a 4 punch combination that didn't have much power on it, I'll score it for him.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by silencers98
                      I don't think punching power should be an equation in scoring fights, sometimes fighters win fights through activity and I don't believe different kinds of punches should be scored differently, a punch landed is a punch, judges have problems scoring without these added confusions.
                      An aggressive heavier puncher is then penalised for his taking the fight to his opponent who throws weaker shots at a higher volume

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