Sugar Ray Leonard vs Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[pbftxrs316]

An ATG WW against someone who was at his best at 130 - 135. Floyd's defence keeps him from getting stopped early, but I honestly don't see this going past about the 8th or 9th round. If Chop Chop Corley can hurt Floyd as bad as he did, just imagine what SRL would do to him.

chop chop caught floyd with a wild loopingpunch that really didn't hurt floyd, just stunned him, what you forgot to mention(like it's somehting new anyway, your memory always seems to go blank when it comes to talking positive about floyd anyway) is that floyd came back that same round right after he was stunned and knocked corley down although it was ruled a knockdown. that's the only time floyd was hurt a little, but he took some great shots and walked through them and knocked corley down over 4 times even though the ref didn't rule them all knockdowns. ray throws better, sharper punches and floyd defends well against punches like ray throws, but ray doesn't defend that well against fighters with floyd's style. huge difference sherlock, wake up boy.

[Fox McCloud]

Floyd was clearly hurt against Corley.

He also came back and won that round though.

[JoeyBB]

Ray does everything Floyd does offensively times two. His defense is somewhat of a liability but it wouldn't matter in this case. Floyd is not a dynamic offensive fighter like Hearns who can box you, punch you, or just plain outfight you.

He would beat Floyd similiar to how he beat Benitez.

[pbftxrs316]

Sugar Ray by clear but close UD. Maybe 8-4.

Leonard was totally complete, he would open Mayweather up and draw him out of the pot-shotting mode.

Floyd, with the exception of Hatton and maybe Judah, has won each of his Welterweight fights by simply pot-shotting. He's not going to beat Sugar Ray by that alone. And when he gets drawn into a shoot-out Leonard wins.


I'm not even sure Floyd could beat Paul Williams.....simply styles.
Sugar Ray KO'd Tommy Hearns. That tells me alot. (and yes, I know it was past the 12th)

it also tells you how better skilled floyd is and has always been compared to hearns. and mayweather is just as complete if not more than sugar was. floyd has a much better defense than ray did. and who said they would fight at 147, but even at this weight, floyd would beat ray. as far as this potshotting ****, he won his weltweight fights against guys by being better than them, using his skills better, being much more accurate than them. ray imo could make floyd become more aggressive which would make for a better fight, but could show the killer in floyd, which is monsterous for any fighter in history. floyd's defense frustrates the **** out of ray. floyd is too methodical for ray leonard, ray is very dynamic like i've posted before, but floy dis more complex, but also with a better defense. you can't hit what you can't see and you don't win by arm punches and shoulder punches and floyd is always in the right mindframe, thus him being undefeated, ray has losses which shows you his vulnerablity. floyd is no perfect fighter, but he is just as much, maybe even more complete than ray was. as far as paul williams go, floyd would defeat williams imo due to the fact that paul leaves his body open, and floyd is a terrific but underrated body puncher due to the fact people like you and commentators foucs on his last several fights and focus on his "potshotting" like you do, that you leave out how he breaks fighters down, by working their body, and paul williams has a linky but open body and floyd would attack the living **** out of hit, he's too smart not to, paul williams would have to have a perfect night to even coming close to beating floyd, it would not be easy at all.

[JoeyBB]

lol...

who said they would fight at 147?

Last time I checked that's where Ray started his career, dip****.

Anyway, Hearns was a tough cookie to crack because of his offensive skills. His defense was bad and he would clinch any time a fighter got close. But a 6'2'' fighter with the jab that he had and the type of leverage that he put on his shots. Is tough for any fighter.

And yes, even God Mayweather...I mean Pretty Gay Gayweather.

Pbf345895....man..SHUT THE **** UP.

[Nwahs !!]

Ray does everything Floyd does offensively times two. His defense is somewhat of a liability but it wouldn't matter in this case. Floyd is not a dynamic offensive fighter like Hearns who can box you, punch you, or just plain outfight you.

He would beat Floyd similiar to how he beat Benitez.

I actually consider Benitez a better fighter than Floyd. He is a little like James Toney though, he never really had the dedication to come into the ring in stellar shape.

Benitez was offensively and defensively as good or better than Mayweather. Floyd has speed on him though, but Benitez is absolutely incredible.

[Jim Jeffries]

but ray doesn't defend that well against fighters with floyd's style. huge difference sherlock, wake up boy.

So Ray takes bombs from Hagler, Hearns and Duran without too much problem, but he's going to be concerned about taking shots from Floyd?

Corley had Floyd hurt and SRL had 10 times the offence that Corley has and is a much better finisher.

[JoeyBB]

I actually consider Benitez a better fighter than Floyd. He is a little like James Toney though, he never really had the dedication to come into the ring in stellar shape.

Benitez was offensively and defensively as good or better than Mayweather. Floyd has speed on him though, but Benitez is absolutely incredible.

Pretty much agreed. Mayweather's a physical specimen. Doesn't look strong but he is tough as hell in the clinches. Hard to muscle.

Benitez was a beast at 17, but nowhere near a physical specimen. Mayweather's got the reflexes and speed on him any day of the week.

[JC Warrior]

Speed, power, chin, all favor SRL while defense and movement favor Floyd.

One thing that wasn't given as much attention that could very well decide the proposed matchup is what Brooklyn Bomber hinted at early in the thread and that is Floyds natural lack of aggression.

Ray was a ferocious fighter and had a terrific desire to bring offense, while Floyd's first instincts seem to be more of survival and countering. The fact that Leonard could take a punch also works against Floyd, even if Floyd managed to counter Leonard I don't seeit being the kind of counter shots Floyd gets off against lesser fighters like Hatton or DeLaHoya or even Genaro Hernandez. Once Floyd finds his punches don't damage Ray or make him timid it's all Leonard going forward and Floyd going backward. SRL UD 9-3 over Floyd.

[Motofan]

Sugar Ray by UD.