Miguel Cotto Is The New "Golden Boy"

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  • -Antonio-
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    #11
    Originally posted by rogelio1289
    Then why does floyd have to fight the best fighters back to back to back to back since that what it seems you guys want. Cotto is unproven and needs to beat a williams, margarito, or citron in impressive fashion to be even considered a chance to beat floyd. Floyd faught gatti, baldi, judah, dlh, hatton. where the **** is the tune of fight of the likes of gomez in that mix?
    You ever heard of Sharmbe Mitchell or did you accidentally leave that one out?

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      #12
      Originally posted by Left2body
      Come on are you serious? Gatti is a warm up fight if I ever saw one and all he did was bring a sluggers name and popularity. No one thought he had a chance of winning. Baldi is a solid win but its also comparable to a Gomez type of fight. Baldi is limited offensively but has a titanium chin very little risk and he was a tune up with a belt, thats why Zab faced him before he was scheduled to fight PBF.........BECAUSE Baldomir is a tune-up journeymen type fighter. Zab came in out of focus and didn't take him serious thats why he lost.
      You could point out flaws in every opponent. especially cotto's so i wont even go there that is old by now. the point is baldi came in and beat "the man" at the time at 147 and therefor was "the Man" to beat. The belt baldi had is pretty much the belt of the division and to get it you had to beat baldi. And i'd be damn if your trying to say gomez is a tougher fight then baldi.

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      • Left2body
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        #13
        Originally posted by rogelio1289
        You could point out flaws in every opponent. especially cotto's so i wont even go there that is old by now. the point is baldi came in and beat "the man" at the time at 147 and therefor was "the Man" to beat. The belt baldi had is pretty much the belt of the division and to get it you had to beat baldi. And i'd be damn if your trying to say gome is a tougher fight then baldi.
        Your point was that PBF didn't have an easy tune-up fight and I just showed you 2 fights which were tune up fights. If you can't accept that Gatti was a tune-up level risk fighter at the time PBF faught him then I wont even bother debating with you further.

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        • JoeyBB
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          #14
          The thing is DLT, people put Floyd on a higher place because he is the self proclaimed 'p4p champ' and the 'greatest ever'.

          Like I said, self proclaimed.

          If Cotto ran his mouth half as much as Mayweather, he would get some criticism. But he doesn't.

          He quietly goes about his work, and utterly destroys people. And in a different way then Tito or any fighter does today maybe minus Pavlik.

          He batters you and takes your will.

          That is something more compelling to watch, at least in my eyes, then some guy winning a fight looking 'flashy' and 'flamboyant.

          Ya dig?

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            #15
            Originally posted by rogelio1289
            Then why does floyd have to fight the best fighters back to back to back to back since that what it seems you guys want. Cotto is unproven and needs to beat a williams, margarito, or citron in impressive fashion to be even considered a chance to beat floyd. Floyd faught gatti, baldi, judah, dlh, hatton. where the **** is the tune of fight of the likes of gomez in that mix?
            Well it would seem that he has to because popular opinion is that Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the best fighter in the world today. He proclaims himself to be the best fighter in the world. Some even think that he's one of the very best fighters of all-time.

            Holding those various reputations and titles hold you to a VERY high standard. You understand this. I understand this. Floyd knows this. He knows that it comes with the territory.

            Floyd fought Corley, Bruseles, Gatti, Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Oscar, Hatton. That's a high level of fighting. I consider Bruseles and Mitchell to be tune up type of fights. Gatti was a rather weak choice of opposition, but he was a big name and carried fame.

            Cotto has fought Abdul, Torres, Branco, Malignaggi, Quintana, Urkal, Judah, Mosley. Also a high level of fighting. Branco, Abdul and Urkal are all tune up type of fights. He is putting together a solid list of opposition besides that.

            Again though, Floyd has been at this longer and and to this point he should only be fighting the best. Should Cotto continue to stay undefeated for three or four more years, I'd bet on him being held to a very high standard like Floyd, fighting the best available too.
            Last edited by oldgringo; 01-15-2008, 01:49 AM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Left2body
              Your point was that PBF didn't have an easy tune-up fight and I just showed you 2 fights which were tune up fights. If you can't accept that Gatti was a tune-up level risk fighter at the time PBF faught him then I wont even bother debating with you further.
              Gatti was considered a tough opponent at the time and there was a lot of hype about gatti's style and how it was going to bother floyd then floyd goes out and makes him look like an amature just like he did to hatton and you cotto fans try to descredit the win because he beat them so bad. Before the fight floyd is going to lose...after there is 100 reasons why floyd opponent sucks. And I'd be damn if fighting for the wbc championship is considered a tune up fight because that's what you just said lmao. So the wbc championship fight was a tune up for what a heavy weight title?
              Last edited by ANDROID_DOES; 01-15-2008, 01:54 AM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by JoeyBB
                The thing is DLT, people put Floyd on a higher place because he is the self proclaimed 'p4p champ' and the 'greatest ever'.

                Like I said, self proclaimed.


                If Cotto ran his mouth half as much as Mayweather, he would get some criticism. But he doesn't.

                He quietly goes about his work, and utterly destroys people. And in a different way then Tito or any fighter does today maybe minus Pavlik.

                He batters you and takes your will.

                That is something more compelling to watch, at least in my eyes, then some guy winning a fight looking 'flashy' and 'flamboyant.

                Ya dig?
                Maybe that's why cotto's ppv buys are garbage and is yet to be considered a name in this sport. Floyd vs baldi did more buys then cotto vs mosley

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                • Left2body
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by rogelio1289
                  Gatti was considered a tough opponent at the time and there was a lot of hype about gatti's style and how it was going to bother floyd then floyd goes out and makes him look like an amature just like he did to hatton and you cotto fans try to descredit the win because he beat them so bad. And I'd be damn if fighting for the wbc championship is considered a tune up fight because that's what you just said lmao. So the wbc championship fight was a tune up for what a heavy weight title?
                  Obviously you can't read too well when you dont even notice I said "tune-up level risk". Gatti's fighting ability especially at that point was journeyman.

                  Who the hell were you talking too that considered Gatti a risk, the cast of Soprano's? No boxing fan with a halfway decent seeing eye dog thought Gatti was gonna win so please. You also fail to mention the Mitchell and Brussel fights, so where is your arguement that PBF took no tune-ups.

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                  • oldgringo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Left2body
                    Obviously you can't read too well when you dont even notice I said "tune-up level risk". Gatti's fighting ability especially at that point was journeyman.

                    Who the hell were you talking too that considered Gatti a risk, the cast of Soprano's? No boxing fan with a halfway decent seeing eye dog thought Gatti was gonna win so please. You also fail to mention the Mitchell and Brussel fights, so where is your arguement that PBF took no tune-ups.
                    There were about 4 people thinking Gatti was going to win. There user names were, "ThunderGatti", "GattiFan", "Arturo4Life" and "AtlanticCityKid"......................

                    Hahah everybody thought Floyd was going to murder him. You are totally right.

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                      #20
                      I'm confident that Margarito will knock Cotto out brutally when they meet up during the summer. Cotto's shaky chin will betray him again when he is up against an aggressive hard hitting natural welterweight. His power is also overrated as well at 147.

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