Miguel Cotto Is The New "Golden Boy"

[SkillspayBills]

It's hypocricy at it's best. If relentlessly bash Floyd for fighting a tune up bout than you have to do the same to Cotto. It's like how people don't give credit for Floyd beating Zab but they give Cotto credit for beating Zab.

[MaYaN_SuN]

It's hypocricy at it's best. If relentlessly bash Floyd for fighting a tune up bout than you have to do the same to Cotto. It's like how people don't give credit for Floyd beating Zab but they give Cotto credit for beating Zab.

That's the third time I heard that today, lol I was even accused of doing that. But the truth is I haven't seen one person downplay Zab vs Mayweather, but I have seen a grip of people downplay Cotto vs Judah. Now it seems Judah is shot, a bum, this and that. Meanwhile, before the Cotto Judah fight, plenty of people gave Judah a chance based on Cotto's shakey chin.

I think Floyd fans are just as delusional as Floyd is, just about every fight after the Mayweather/Judah bout wasn't exactly jaw dropping or sensational by Floyd. Especially now, I mean ESPECIALLY NOW that Cotto's on the scene gettin ready to take the fighters Floyd won't. Miguel isn't only demolishing Floyd's left overs, but he's willing to take on the fighters Floyd wont fight. And that's just how it is..Not only that, lol ****in Cotto could probably take out Floyd while he's at it. Cotto's strong enough, fast enough, and intelligent enough.

[Horus]

and I dont care what anyone says. This guy can do no wrong by the media and he will always get the benefit of the doubt. Alot of stuff he's done has been so overrated while alot of stuff he fails to do gets completely overlooked and not talked about.

Im not dissing him. He is a very good fighter and you cant take that from him but he's the new Golden Boy. I cant even remember the last time I heard something bad about him. Even on this forum only a few people call him out on things.

Really though, what has he really done so great? To me the only great thing he has done is beat a 37 year old Mosley who I thought looked shot in the ring and he still looked twice as big as Shane. Still, I know others dont feel that way about that fight so I will give him credit for it but what else?

Manny Steward talks about how Cotto fights everyone and people on here say the same thing but what proof do you have of it? Everyone now gives Cotto a ton of credit for beating Torres & Paulie. Even Steward does. Do people even remember those fights? When those fights were made, most predicted that Cotto would win by a 3rd round KO. No one even knew who Torres was. Only a few people knew about Paulie and all of them thought he was a bum ass club fighter. Now those wins are supposed to be star studded? Now Paulie looks average against Herman and people say he is not that good. Then Cotto gets a boat load of credit for beating Quintana just because he beat a green Julio who has done nothing in his career. Its so overrated what Cotto has done.

Another thing that makes him the Golden Boy is that people think he's elite and a prospect at the same time. You cant have it both ways. You cant diss Floyd for fighting and beating Zab but make Cotto a super star for beating Zab after Floyd did, after Zab came off a year long suspension, and after Zab hadnt won a fight in 2 years. Now no one wants to see Oscar vs Floyd but all those same people wanted to see Cotto vs Oscar. Then they have the nerve to say that Floyd's win over Oscar means nothing because Oscar was a washed up bum but if Oscar beats Cotto then Floyd is still a punk for not fighting Cotto? Please. If Cotto cant beat Oscar then he never deserved a Floyd fight in the 1st place.

Then look at Cotto's size. Thats the biggest thing to me. He is always way bigger then his opponents. At 140 it was clear to me that he wouldve had atleast 2 losses if he wasnt just so much bigger then those opponents. He shouldve never been at that weight. Then people say Floyd hasnt fought a real WW when he beat guys like Baldy & Oscar who are huge. Who has Cotto beat that was a real WW? The only 2 real WW's he fought were Shane & Quintana and those guys are not big WW's. Quintana is a boxer that doesnt use his size at all and Cotto made shane look like a little boy in the ring. Even Steward talked about it the whole fight. He still hasnt fought a guy like Oscar, Margarito, Cintron, or Clottey who is just as big as him. He never has. Atleast Floyd came from 130. Whats Cotto's excuse? Floyd is always the smaller man and in most of his fights he is the much smaller man. Cotto is the exact opposite. He's always the bigger man and in most fights he is the much bigger man.

The #1 thing that makes him the new Golden Boy is how its mandatory that Floyd has to fight Cotto or Williams or else he is considered to be a punk but Williams calls Cotto out all day and no one ever talks about it. You never see anyone demanding that fight. I cant believe how people think its so brave for Cotto to call out Floyd but they dont think it means nothing that he doesnt want to challange Williams? What? All of those guys want to fight Floyd because of size but none of them want to fight Williams when there his size. Sure he might be a little bigger but there all still naturally close to the same size. If Floyd started at WW do you really think he would be scared to fight Williams? He wouldve fought him quick. Why wont Cotto? He never even looks his way and no one says anything. Now they say he's fighting Gomez but its ok? Everyone again takes up for him. Let Floyd call out Gomez right now and watch what happeneds. Now Cintron is calling out Cotto. We all know that Cintron isnt that great but atleast we will for the 1st time see what Cotto does against a real WW and someone his own size. Will he take it? I know it wont matter if he doesnt because the media & fans will make an excuse for it because he is the new Golden Boy. Someone find me a bad article about him because I cant. I didnt know that his resume was so great that he is Mr. Untouchable now. I didnt know he accomplished that much with his wins over Zab, Paulie, and Torres

This is The Truth, it goes to the turth about the Mayweather Double Standard..

[-Antonio-]

Yeah lol and according to DLT Cotto has an unfair size advantage, but Williams does not.

I think I'll pass on reading about double standards from him.

[MELLY-MEL...]

You're just looking at what DLH did inside the ring. What made him 'The Golden Boy' was what happened outside of the ring. His story about promising his mother the gold medal and winning it, he's good looking and articulate and managed to open a new market to boxing just to watch him.

Cotto has a style that makes exciting fights but outside of the ring, he's like a statue.

spot on post as usual.

[SicarioVDL]

Maybe when Cotto beats Mayweather you'll come to your senses and understand why Cotto is a better fighter than Mayweather. Just because Cotto hasnt fought the same fighters Mayweather has and beat them that doesnt make Mayweather a better fighter than Cotto. Cotto has worked his way up just like Mayweather has. Mayweather is a great boxer and his smart too, but theres no doubt that Cotto will beat him and while his at it he'll teach mayweather a lil something.....

[IwatchBoxing]

No way hbo's ratings were too low for him to be the new golden boy.

[VIVA MEXICO!!]

and I dont care what anyone says. This guy can do no wrong by the media and he will always get the benefit of the doubt. Alot of stuff he's done has been so overrated while alot of stuff he fails to do gets completely overlooked and not talked about.

Im not dissing him. He is a very good fighter and you cant take that from him but he's the new Golden Boy. I cant even remember the last time I heard something bad about him. Even on this forum only a few people call him out on things.

Really though, what has he really done so great? To me the only great thing he has done is beat a 37 year old Mosley who I thought looked shot in the ring and he still looked twice as big as Shane. Still, I know others dont feel that way about that fight so I will give him credit for it but what else?

Manny Steward talks about how Cotto fights everyone and people on here say the same thing but what proof do you have of it? Everyone now gives Cotto a ton of credit for beating Torres & Paulie. Even Steward does. Do people even remember those fights? When those fights were made, most predicted that Cotto would win by a 3rd round KO. No one even knew who Torres was. Only a few people knew about Paulie and all of them thought he was a bum ass club fighter. Now those wins are supposed to be star studded? Now Paulie looks average against Herman and people say he is not that good. Then Cotto gets a boat load of credit for beating Quintana just because he beat a green Julio who has done nothing in his career. Its so overrated what Cotto has done.

Another thing that makes him the Golden Boy is that people think he's elite and a prospect at the same time. You cant have it both ways. You cant diss Floyd for fighting and beating Zab but make Cotto a super star for beating Zab after Floyd did, after Zab came off a year long suspension, and after Zab hadnt won a fight in 2 years. Now no one wants to see Oscar vs Floyd but all those same people wanted to see Cotto vs Oscar. Then they have the nerve to say that Floyd's win over Oscar means nothing because Oscar was a washed up bum but if Oscar beats Cotto then Floyd is still a punk for not fighting Cotto? Please. If Cotto cant beat Oscar then he never deserved a Floyd fight in the 1st place.

Then look at Cotto's size. Thats the biggest thing to me. He is always way bigger then his opponents. At 140 it was clear to me that he wouldve had atleast 2 losses if he wasnt just so much bigger then those opponents. He shouldve never been at that weight. Then people say Floyd hasnt fought a real WW when he beat guys like Baldy & Oscar who are huge. Who has Cotto beat that was a real WW? The only 2 real WW's he fought were Shane & Quintana and those guys are not big WW's. Quintana is a boxer that doesnt use his size at all and Cotto made shane look like a little boy in the ring. Even Steward talked about it the whole fight. He still hasnt fought a guy like Oscar, Margarito, Cintron, or Clottey who is just as big as him. He never has. Atleast Floyd came from 130. Whats Cotto's excuse? Floyd is always the smaller man and in most of his fights he is the much smaller man. Cotto is the exact opposite. He's always the bigger man and in most fights he is the much bigger man.

The #1 thing that makes him the new Golden Boy is how its mandatory that Floyd has to fight Cotto or Williams or else he is considered to be a punk but Williams calls Cotto out all day and no one ever talks about it. You never see anyone demanding that fight. I cant believe how people think its so brave for Cotto to call out Floyd but they dont think it means nothing that he doesnt want to challange Williams? What? All of those guys want to fight Floyd because of size but none of them want to fight Williams when there his size. Sure he might be a little bigger but there all still naturally close to the same size. If Floyd started at WW do you really think he would be scared to fight Williams? He wouldve fought him quick. Why wont Cotto? He never even looks his way and no one says anything. Now they say he's fighting Gomez but its ok? Everyone again takes up for him. Let Floyd call out Gomez right now and watch what happeneds. Now Cintron is calling out Cotto. We all know that Cintron isnt that great but atleast we will for the 1st time see what Cotto does against a real WW and someone his own size. Will he take it? I know it wont matter if he doesnt because the media & fans will make an excuse for it because he is the new Golden Boy. Someone find me a bad article about him because I cant. I didnt know that his resume was so great that he is Mr. Untouchable now. I didnt know he accomplished that much with his wins over Zab, Paulie, and Torres

i dont think so. there was alot of hate for him when he fought gomez and there are many haters on the boxing scene.

[PRp4p757]

This is consistent with what you have posted from day one...at least.

"I like Cotto, but (insert fighter) will beat him."



Vague.



Yes you are.

"Really though, what has he really done so great?" - Diss

"Its so overrated what Cotto has done." - Diss

Your agenda is to discredit Cotto while defending Floyd. We all know this. You should not pretend to respect or acknowledge Cotto as anything since it is pretty clear what you think of him.



Who has said they are "star studded"? You are sensationalizing. They are good wins because those guys have been successful preceding the Cotto fight and afterward. Paul has gone on to win a title. Torres went on to win a title. Both men have defended their titles. Nobody here knew much about either of those guys outside of what they showed against Cotto and their respective following matches. You have to base the quality of the wins on what they have shown in the ring, in addition to their accomplishments, and both fighters have been shown to be legitimate competition.



Again, you are missing the point. Not every fighter can go out and beat established, ex or current champions every fight. The Quintana win was good for several reasons:

A) Quintana was a prospect just like Julio was. You pointing out that Julio was "green" means absolutely nothing considering that Quintana was too. On the other hand, Julio was one of the very top prospects in the world at the time, sporting a gaudy KO-laden record. the public knew much more about him than Quintana. Quintana took Julio to school. This was a shocking result and as a result, a great win for Quintana.

B) Cotto completely destroyed Quintana. It was a bad beating of an undefeated, then highly regarded prospect in Cotto's introduction to the division. The way Cotto walked through Quintana was impressive. How many undefeated champions looking to move up in weight will go after a high risk, low reward fight like that? Not many is your answer...



What? Hah...what does this even mean? People stopped considering him a prospect a long time ago. Anyone who says otherwise, well, disregard them.



You do understand that Floyd has been fighting for several years longer than Cotto right? Cotto is still building a legacy. I feel *most* recognize the Oscar win as a good win because of the size difference and because Oscar is Oscar. People want to see Cotto/Oscar so that Cotto can get his name into the mainstream. Again...the difference in years of service between Floyd and Cotto plays into this.



That's like saying, "Floyd would have at least two more losses if his hands weren't so fast and his reflexes weren't so amazing"...duh. Cotto makes weight and is a small man in height and length. Any unnatural weight loss would only hinder his performance.



Quintana is a legitimate Welterweight. Don't say that he is and then launch into this discourse trying to slight that. He was able to hold off a massive Welterweight in Julio, so obviously the man can handle himself in the ring. Mosley is every bit the Welterweight that Oscar is.


Uh, you say Floyd is always the smaller man in his fights, yet he was a big Jr. Lightweight and was the bigger man in the majority of his championship fights at that weight. Goyo Vargas, Rios, Juuko, Chavez, C. Hernandez Manfredy, etc. Since he's moved up he has been in with fighters like Gatti, Corley, Mitchell, Sosa, Bruseles, etc. Those fighters were all his size, if not smaller, coming up from lower weights. I don't see where you draw your prior conclusion from. Or you are just being hypocritical.



Difference between Cotto calling out Floyd and Cotto/Williams being the extent to which these guys are established in the game. Cotto has put in work...against name opponents, prospects, and in between. He has been fighting on the championship stage for quite some time now and he has earned his shot at the top brass. Floyd is the champion and Cotto is the number 2 guy right behind him. Its not like Cotto JUST beat a title holder for the first time and started to call out Floyd. That however IS the scenario with Williams. The guy is a good fighter, and he would probably give Cotto and Floyd hell, but he could stand to fight a few more times on a high level before getting a shot at either Cotto or Floyd.

To sum up, you seem very upset that Cotto has gotten to this point. I know you'd like it if he lost so that Floyd wouldn't have to fight him, but that'd ruin a lot of the hopes that the boxing public currently holds. The most important thing, besides the money, besides all of this internet garbage talk, is that these two fight each other in the ring and prove who is the best man. As a boxing fan, you should want this like everyone else. I don't know when it became acceptable to want to throw away the best possible fights that could be made if both fighters are willing and able to compete.

great post. all true.