how to beat mayweather

[Silencers]

Floyd is kind of a physical freak though. Do you realize that he has the same arm length as Wladimir Klitschko? People always talk about Floyd fighting bigger guys, but he has yet to fight someone with arms as long as his.

Yeah, Mayweather's arms are damn long. Didn't know they were as long as Klitschko's.

[phallus]

DeLaHoya showed marginal success with a stiff jab, but obviously not enough discipline or stamina to keep it up. The key to beating Mayweather in my estimation has a lot of similarity to what Forrest showed beating Mosely and as much as I hate to say this John Luiz style would be a near perfect foil for Floyd. It is ugly, it is gritty, often dirty, but against Floyd I would see it being very effective.

Use a snapping jab to negate the speed and FFS use single jabs, maybe double jabs if you have VERY smart technique or can snap jab 1 out and can push jab 2 out before full retraction. Try to triple or throw a lazy jab and it's curtains; Floyd will turn your lights out with the counter shots.

Patience. Seek openings vs Floyd. He doesn't leave a ton of them but they are there. Lou Duva used to say that "turning" a fighter disrupts not only their standing power (if you can't plant your feet you can't put your weight on 'em) but it puts them out of position to throw and recover on balance. Look for the opportunities to close the gap on Floyd and turn him, tap him in the chest / solar-plexus and brace yourself for the inevitable return shots. He won't have full thunder behind them but you know Floyd is going to throw back. Give yourself the best chance at withstanding that by keeping him offbalance and not at enough distance to counter with the hard shots.

Outmuscling Floyd inside, not to be confused with outworking punch for punch or outsmarting trying to play headgames etc. I.e. hold a lot, squeeze his arms when you clench, roll the shoulder over center when not clinching, rough him up and PUSH him. This of course is easier said than done since Floyd himself (while not a huge puncher) is very, very strong and well conditioned.

Head movement. Not a little bit, a lot. Luiz had a mediocre chin when he was hit clean but he was seldom hit clean because he moved his head in an unworldly unorthadox manner. Roy Jones managed to tag Luiz several times since he was light years faster than Luiz, someone employing this ugly, unconvnetional head movement vs Mayweather needs to have obviously better reflexes than Luiz and better overall body speed.

Land a lucky haymaker. Not that this is something that should be a staple of training to fight Mayweather but if I recall there was about 10-15 seconds to go vs DeLaHoya and Floyd got tapped pretty good and looked very clumsy. It isn't out of the question to think he has a shaky chin and if someone landed soundly it stands to reason it would be "pretty easy" to finish "pretty boy".

Things NOT to do to beat Floyd:

Throw body punches to his oblique's / liver. With the amount of conditioning work Floyd puts in it is almost futile to try and slow him down with standard body punching. The effort you invest in going to his body in that manner will yield few dividends compared to the amount of punishment Floyd will dish out as you reach for his ribs.

Apply constant straight forward pressure. As fun or manly as it would be to see the fight being taken straight to Floyd it has been shown to be a foolish strategy vs his amazing talent. Hatton was surviving fine against Floyd but when he cranked up the pressure it was his undoing.

Do not try to trap Floyd on the ropes. He has great eyes, great reflexes and uncanny instincts. He's not as good as James Toney on the ropes but he's darn close. Keeping him there won't do a thing for you but make you tired, frustrated, and likely worse for the wear.

There's a "how to beat Floyd 101" the best contemporary fighter to do it in my mind already gave it the best shot he could sans the head movement and body punching and was about 7 years too late (DeLaHoya). Maybe as Floyd ages if he sticks around some not quite elite fighter will be able to pull it off.

i think this is going in the right direction, he would need to be very technically solid with quick hands to match floid's and get off very fast combinations as floid's coming inside to pot shot or at least be able to time floid. the drag queen was able to land a few clean flush shots on floid's chin, he just couldn't cut off the ring and force floid to duke it out with him

[BennyST]

Great post JC. Also a very good pure boxer could beat Floyd. He hasn't fought a single great pure boxer. Simply because there are none at the moment. A very good inside pressure fighter also. Not your typical Mexican type pressure fighter ala Chavez.

[JHAVIS]

:*******: Remember to spit afterwards.

Trust me if Floyd stays at WW long enough, he's losing. Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Cintron, Clottey. Floyd's not getting through that gauntlet, sorry.

none of these guys will beat him. in order to beat him you have to be a better boxer,which none of these guys are. you can apply all the pressure,jab all you want that isnt going to work. you need to outclass him in speed and boxing skills to win

[mitch12]

in your opinion, how do u beat mayweather? if u were to train a fighter against mayweather, what would u have him do? it's obviously a hypothetical question, but i'm assuming u guys know ur **** about the sport, so give me some honest answers.. i was wondering this just outta curiosity

put him against calzaghe instant defeat for mayweather.

[TheGreatA]

Floyd is kind of a physical freak though. Do you realize that he has the same arm length as Wladimir Klitschko? People always talk about Floyd fighting bigger guys, but he has yet to fight someone with arms as long as his.

Where have you heard this? I have a hard time believing it's true.





Some pic's for comparison.

[eazy_mas]

Flody reach is 72

Wlad reach is 81

Shane Mosely 74

Zab Judah 72

Cotto reach is 67

Paul William 82

Kermit Cintron 74

Margarito 73

Clottely 70

so Floyd reach makes alot of difference. maybe he is abit above average but it not the reach or the speed that matters it how you use them that matter.

[blacksky]

lol where did the fact about his arms being the same at Klitschko's come from!

[moin126]

they want to blame mayweathers succes on his arm lenght.

I think, Attacks vs mayweather are succesful obviously when he is out of balance, He keeps his balance and distance so well, and keeps timing you.

Elusive continuous pressure, ala henry armstrong, with a strong accurate jab aimed to get him use the roll and move his head back, the instance he does that, you jump on him with punches.

But what makes mayweather so good is he's intelligent in the ring, so you gotta have a plan, and be smart. If you try one thing, he'll figure you out soon and adapt.

A example i noticed, quite interesting, if you have the hatton- mayweather fight
look at the last 25 seconds of round 7 hatton moves in attacking with a
1-2. cortez seperates them and he again leads with his left towards mayweather. mayweather ducks it, and noticed he keeps leading with left, then counters him with his perfectly timed right, and you see him smiling.

[sparked_85]

how to beat mayweather

.....with a snooker ball in a sock.