Floyd fans.....

[C'MONMANG']

Not too much older than Floyd, and at the end of the day, they are much much much more respected than a Contender Contender/non-champion.

actually no they arent. they were old and not very competitive.

[COACH WEBB]

These posts about May and Cotto are getting loooooong and draaaaaawn out. I mean, Cotto ain't NEVER mention fighting Floyd when they both were at 40, anybody remember that? Young Miguel was too busy struggling and getting tagged by the rest of the Junior Welterweights. I believe that Cotto's promoter is a smart guy (and old and redundant). He KNEW that he could have made the fight at 40, when they both were under his promotional umbrella. Did that ever happen? Then as time went on, Floyd bought out his contract and moved on. As time kept going, NOW the relationship bt May and Arum ain't good, so NOW he makes Cotto call out Floyd? That is boxing promoting brilliance!

Let's look at history as I always tell people, Oscar was the same way with Arum. The relationship went VERY bad and Oscar started his OWN company and didn't deal with Top Rank. In addition, May knew that he wouldn't get a shot at Oscar since he was under Arum, so he had to venture out to make the fight happen. Now Floyd is kind of in the spot Oscar was in for years (not so much now), as far as working with Arum and Top Rank is concerned. But besides all those legal issues, Cotto wants Floyd, but Arum is about to put him in there with Gomez? WOW! I thought that Oscar was still looking for someone to fight. Why fight in April against a "Contender", when you can wait an extra month, just 30 days to get the cash cow and a BIGGGER fight with Mr. De la hoya himself!?!?!?!! You do the math.

Also, let's look even further in history. Ray Leonard was on top of the game and Thomas "HitMan" Hearns,(a good friend of my dad's, him and Ray) was knocking um ******! He rose up and became the WW champ of the world. They kept saying that Ray was ducking him. They kept trying to make the fight happen, but Ray was basically "retired" and he finally agreed to fight Hearns. Historically, this was probably the BIGGEST fight at WW ever, and the fight did not disappoint. Ray ended up stopping Hearns in a all-time great fight at welter. What I am saying is this? Cotto can keep talking about this and that, but how will he react when he is inside those ropes? Guess we ALL will see!
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[THE REED]

You didn't understand the post did you?
He didn't compare Pavlik to Floyd as to their achievements or where they are in their career.
What he is saying is he wants to see his man(Pavlik) fighting the top fighters.
Which is what I don't understand about some Floyd fans.
They are quite happy for him not to fight.
Which is ridiculous.
Its like supporting Man Utd but then not bothered if they don't play against Arsenal.
Get it yet?

i understood what he was saying... and my reply wasnt a reply to comparing them as fighters or achievments at all.. ill say it again comparing floyd to not fighting and pavlik to not fighting is ridiculous... pavlik JUST won the championship... it would be insane for him to take a vacation now... on the other hand floyds been a champ for 10 years...

I WANT THE ****IN MAN TO KEEP FIGHTING

I HOPE HE FIGHTS COTTO, I HOPE ITS THIS YEAR

I HOPE HE FIGHTS MARGARITO AND PWILL

I HOPE HE ANNOUNCES AT 3PM TODAY


what i said was... if he wants to take a break.. i feel its deserved.. and that i would UNDERSTAND

i didnt say i would like it.. especially 2 years

[C'MONMANG']

i understood what he was saying... and my reply wasnt a reply to comparing them as fighters or achievments at all.. ill say it again comparing floyd to not fighting and pavlik to not fighting is ridiculous... pavlik JUST won the championship... it would be insane for him to take a vacation now... on the other hand floyds been a champ for 10 years...

I WANT THE ****IN MAN TO KEEP FIGHTING

I HOPE HE FIGHTS COTTO, I HOPE ITS THIS YEAR

I HOPE HE FIGHTS MARGARITO AND PWILL

I HOPE HE ANNOUNCES AT 3PM TODAY


what i said was... if he wants to take a break.. i feel its deserved.. and that i would UNDERSTAND

i didnt say i would like it.. especially 2 years

understand. good post

[sonofisis]

Yeah but it doesn't change the fact that they ******

If they did, they wouldn't be lineal and multiple (as opposed to 1 time) champions, so you're spewing nonsense, of course. If we're speaking relatively, then well, Gomez sucks the hardest seeing as how he couldn't even win a Contender belt!! Let alone a real one. No one WANTS to see Cotto fight Gomez, the boxing writers called for Floyd to fight Baldy, who is 20 times better than Gomez and anybody he's faced. Also Mitchell wasn't so shot that he couldn't beat Cruz right after, so you people are just desperate to discredit, knowing that Floyd has defeated at least 12 former and current world champions and 5 weight classes in 18 title fights, while beating some of the best in his era..

"Floyd's number one this era. He's proved that, against Oscar, now against Ricky Hatton. He's fought the best fighters of his era, so that puts him up there. There's a few more fights left in Floyd, and bigger and better things to come." - Sugar Ray Leonard on Floyd Mayweather jr.

Sugar Ray Leonard

[moofo]

These posts about May and Cotto are getting loooooong and draaaaaawn out. I mean, Cotto ain't NEVER mention fighting Floyd when they both were at 40, anybody remember that? Young Miguel was too busy struggling and getting tagged by the rest of the Junior Welterweights. I believe that Cotto's promoter is a smart guy (and old and redundant). He KNEW that he could have made the fight at 40, when they both were under his promotional umbrella. Did that ever happen? Then as time went on, Floyd bought out his contract and moved on. As time kept going, NOW the relationship bt May and Arum ain't good, so NOW he makes Cotto call out Floyd? That is boxing promoting brilliance!

Let's look at history as I always tell people, Oscar was the same way with Arum. The relationship went VERY bad and Oscar started his OWN company and didn't deal with Top Rank. In addition, May knew that he wouldn't get a shot at Oscar since he was under Arum, so he had to venture out to make the fight happen. Now Floyd is kind of in the spot Oscar was in for years (not so much now), as far as working with Arum and Top Rank is concerned. But besides all those legal issues, Cotto wants Floyd, but Arum is about to put him in there with Gomez? WOW! I thought that Oscar was still looking for someone to fight. Why fight in April against a "Contender", when you can wait an extra month, just 30 days to get the cash cow and a BIGGGER fight with Mr. De la hoya himself!?!?!?!! You do the math.

Also, let's look even further in history. Ray Leonard was on top of the game and Thomas "HitMan" Hearns,(a good friend of my dad's, him and Ray) was knocking um ******! He rose up and became the WW champ of the world. They kept saying that Ray was ducking him. They kept trying to make the fight happen, but Ray was basically "retired" and he finally agreed to fight Hearns. Historically, this was probably the BIGGEST fight at WW ever, and the fight did not disappoint. Ray ended up stopping Hearns in a all-time great fight at welter. What I am saying is this? Cotto can keep talking about this and that, but how will he react when he is inside those ropes? Guess we ALL will see!
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Cotto was still learning his trade at 140 and was never destined to stay there as his body would not allow it.
Like Hatton Cotto needed to keep adding names and experience to his resume to
1. Become a better fighter.
2. To have more bargaining power at the Money table.

Cotto will certainly earn more if he fights Floyd now than if he had at 140.

[moofo]

If they did, they wouldn't be lineal and multiple (as opposed to 1 time) champions, so you're spewing nonsense, of course. If we're speaking relatively, then well, Gomez sucks the hardest seeing as how he couldn't even win a Contender belt!! Let alone a real one. No one WANTS to see Cotto fight Gomez, the boxing writers called for Floyd to fight Baldy, who is 20 times better than Gomez and anybody he's faced. Also Mitchell wasn't so shot that he couldn't beat Cruz right after, so you people are just desperate to discredit, knowing that Floyd has defeated at least 12 former and current world champions and 5 weight classes in 18 title fights, while beating some of the best in his era..

Who we must admit were not at the time they met Floyd at the pinnacle of their own respective powers.

[HappyBoxingFan]

i understood what he was saying... and my reply wasnt a reply to comparing them as fighters or achievments at all.. ill say it again comparing floyd to not fighting and pavlik to not fighting is ridiculous... pavlik JUST won the championship... it would be insane for him to take a vacation now... on the other hand floyds been a champ for 10 years...

i didnt say i would like it.. especially 2 years

The things is though, and this is what is upsetting, is that he's not going to take a break. He's going to fight De La Hoya. And I UNDERSTAND it's alot of money. It's just dissapointing I have to watch Mayweather point another stiff.

Here's what this situation looks like to me. Cotto wants Mayweather and he thinks he has a chance to get the fight. But, Mayweather isn't going to take that fight. He's going to fight De La Hoya for a ****load of money. So, what Cotto is doing is taking this crap fight against Gomez and hoping that the De La Hoya/Mayweather II fight doesn't materialize. If De La Hoya/Mayweather II doesn't happen, Cotto can fight De La Hoya or Mayweather. That's why he has to keep his options open before scheduling a big fight against someone like Williams. If De La Hoya/Mayweather II does happen, you will almost certainly see Cotto fight Williams in Puerto Rico.

[THE REED]

The things is though, and this is what is upsetting, is that he's not going to take a break. He's going to fight De La Hoya. And I UNDERSTAND it's alot of money. It's just dissapointing I have to watch Mayweather point another stiff.

Here's what this situation looks like to me. Cotto wants Mayweather and he thinks he has a chance to get the fight. But, Mayweather isn't going to take that fight. He's going to fight De La Hoya for a ****load of money. So, what Cotto is doing is taking this crap fight against Gomez and hoping that the De La Hoya/Mayweather II fight doesn't materialize. If De La Hoya/Mayweather II doesn't happen, Cotto can fight De La Hoya or Mayweather. That's why he has to keep his options open before scheduling a big fight against someone like Williams. If De La Hoya/Mayweather II does happen, you will almost certainly see Cotto fight Williams in Puerto Rico.

i still dont understand why floyd fighting oscar is keeping cotto from fighting margarito or p. will ...either way hes tied up in a fight.. whether it be gomez or margarito... so why doesnt he work TOWARDS a fight with floyd in margarito rather than work AWAY from a fight in gomez

i dont blame cotto though.. i know its 100% bob arum

[Tijuana Tornado]

1. Floyd need not fight contenders at every weight he conquers, the point is that he conquered it, and years after he conquered his first division.

How do you "conquer" a division without fighting all of the best fighters? You can't conquer a division without cleaning it out.

2. Please hold Cotto to the same standard. When's the last time Floyd fought someone like Gomez.

Three fights ago. His name was Baldomir.

3. Ali, Foreman, and Frazier are from different eras and fought at one weight class their entire careers. You bring up Hagler, who Sugar Ray Leonard beat, well this is what SRL has to say:

""Floyd's number one this era. He's proved that, against Oscar, now against Ricky Hatton. He's fought the best fighters of his era, so that puts him up there. There's a few more fights left in Floyd, and bigger and better things to come." - SRL on PBF

Heavyweights can't move up in weight, you idiot. Use some plain and basic common sense, will you? And there are bigger and better things out there for Floyd, but he wants no part of them. He is a coward.