If Floyd Beats Cotto Is He Better Than Sugar Ray Robinson?

[THE REED]

there we go! now thats what i wanna see! if he won the middleweight title... hes top 5... cemented

[Johnny Rebel]

In order to rank Floyd near Sugar Ray he would have to fight and at least come close to beating Calzaghe. Robinson sure as hell would fight Calzaghe if he was fighting today. Ray would also have fought Tszyu, Cotto, Williams, Spinks, Pavlik and Hopkins.

Floyd is great but it's insulting to Robinson's legacy to rank Floyd ahead of him when he's not even proved to be the best at 147.

[THE REED]

In order to rank Floyd near Sugar Ray he would have to fight and at least come close to beating Calzaghe.

THE OFFICIAL JOE CALZAGHE NUTHUGGER POST OF THE DAY

[Flab]

even if he did... cotto williams and cintron arent even hof fighters...

cottos got two good wins over questionable opponents...
pwill has one good win
and cintron is still yet to be a proven elite in my eyes

You all can judge for yourselves.

Floyd Mayweather Jr.



Sugar Ray Robinson

Robinson has one of the hardest punches I've ever seen, I believe he killed a few boxers in the ring (that's what happens when you fight bums) but he is no where near as skilled or as fast as Mayweather.

[CottoBreaksMen]

Some of the youngens here think beating cotto will solitify him as the greatest p4p fighter of all time...

please prove them wrong... it disgusts me

No not to solidify anything.. But to prove he is a champ or at leasts thinks like one and not some Hollywood actor. A fighter with pride would welcome ALL challenges, especially when the public perception is such that he is afraid or "tentative" to fight Cotto. Floyd will never have my vote. Too ****** and lacking balls.

[wmute]

Floyd has a better fighting style, his punches aren't so wide at times and he doesn't leave himself open to be hit as much because even when his hands are low he uses his shoulders as a defense but when you compare credentials, actual qualifying credentials that rate you amongst the elite of all time he cant phase Robinson, Robinson has a longer career than Floyd and won titles in more weight classes, he has had trilogies and fought some guys more than 3 times, dude was a beast and took on anybody, back then it started out for pride then ended out for money but all the while those guys ducked nobody, they all fought the best they could, Sugar Ray surpasses Floyd by at least 10-20 miles in a race..

don't get me wrong Floyd is an all time great, Floyd has done a lot of **** in his career and give him his props he beat the champions of his weight classes regardless how easy or not they were, in WW he beat Judah who WOULD HAVE been the opponent had he taken baldomir seriously to show he would have beaten Judah too then he went and beat Baldomir to secure his dominance, the other guys got the lesser belts and are in a position where THEY have to fight amongst each other, Paul doesn't deserve Floyd yet, neither does Kermit or Margarito so I can understand why Floyd faced Ricky and is now eyeing Cotto because Cotto been stepping up and winning all his fights, took Shane out of the mix and beat enough prospects and other good opponents to consider himself worthy, Cotto and Floyd will make each other great but better than Robinson HELL NO..

bottomline Floyd may have a better and slicker fighting style but it ain't HOW you throw your hands it's about what have your hands won for you, Ray earned MORE in his day than what Floyd has earned now, Ray had Floyd's career number of fights times 4, there is NO comparison other than hand skills and technical Boxing but once again that doesn't help stamp your greatness in history over another fighter with a bigger name..

The bold is wrong.

Robinson won titles a 47 and 60. Mayweather at 30, 35, 47 (sticking only with real titles like the one Robinson won, forget 40 and 54).

Robinson never faced Charley Burley.

Robinson is still the greatest anyways.

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In order to rank Floyd near Sugar Ray he would have to fight and at least come close to beating Calzaghe. Robinson sure as hell would fight Calzaghe if he was fighting today. Ray would also have fought Tszyu, Cotto, Williams, Spinks, Pavlik and Hopkins.

Floyd is great but it's insulting to Robinson's legacy to rank Floyd ahead of him when he's not even proved to be the best at 147.

If Mayweather beat Calzaghe he would be touweighed by 30 pounds, and facing a GREAT. He would have to be ranked #1 ALL TIME (130 to 168, are you kidding me?, however PBF beating Zag is IMPOSSIBLE (30THIRTY30 pounds, and JC is JC).

[THE REED]

If Mayweather beat Calzaghe he would be touweighed by 30 pounds, and facing a GREAT. He would have to be ranked #1 ALL TIME (130 to 168, are you kidding me?, however PBF beating Zag is IMPOSSIBLE (30THIRTY30 pounds, and JC is JC).

weight doesnt win fights... skills pay bills...

who cares how much harder your punch is... if you cant land it


on the other hand... floyd doesnt beat joe

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Floyd is already a great, Cotto or no Cotto.

To be there with Robinson he would have to stay at 147 (or move to 140) and be the top dog for a few years, even slightly past his prime. That is not going to happen as Mayweather is not going to risk his health. But TWO reigns (130 and 147 would) do it.

[TheGreatA]

Robinson has one of the hardest punches I've ever seen, I believe he killed a few boxers in the ring (that's what happens when you fight bums) but he is no where near as skilled or as fast as Mayweather.

You seriously rule. I've been laughing all day at your posts. Great job, you're funny as hell man.