If Floyd Beats Cotto Is He Better Than Sugar Ray Robinson?

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  • Parody
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    #11
    Originally posted by Kayo
    he would need to beat cotto, williams, cintron and win a title at 160
    He still wont be better than SRR. Top 3 or Top 5 for sure if he does all of that.

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    • THE REED
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      #12
      Originally posted by Kayo
      he would need to beat cotto, williams, cintron and win a title at 160
      even if he did... cotto williams and cintron arent even hof fighters...

      cottos got two good wins over questionable opponents...
      pwill has one good win
      and cintron is still yet to be a proven elite in my eyes

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      • crillz
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        #13
        Floyd has a better fighting style, his punches aren't so wide at times and he doesn't leave himself open to be hit as much because even when his hands are low he uses his shoulders as a defense but when you compare credentials, actual qualifying credentials that rate you amongst the elite of all time he cant phase Robinson, Robinson has a longer career than Floyd and won titles in more weight classes, he has had trilogies and fought some guys more than 3 times, dude was a beast and took on anybody, back then it started out for pride then ended out for money but all the while those guys ducked nobody, they all fought the best they could, Sugar Ray surpasses Floyd by at least 10-20 miles in a race..

        don't get me wrong Floyd is an all time great, Floyd has done a lot of **** in his career and give him his props he beat the champions of his weight classes regardless how easy or not they were, in WW he beat Judah who WOULD HAVE been the opponent had he taken baldomir seriously to show he would have beaten Judah too then he went and beat Baldomir to secure his dominance, the other guys got the lesser belts and are in a position where THEY have to fight amongst each other, Paul doesn't deserve Floyd yet, neither does Kermit or Margarito so I can understand why Floyd faced Ricky and is now eyeing Cotto because Cotto been stepping up and winning all his fights, took Shane out of the mix and beat enough prospects and other good opponents to consider himself worthy, Cotto and Floyd will make each other great but better than Robinson HELL NO..

        bottomline Floyd may have a better and slicker fighting style but it ain't HOW you throw your hands it's about what have your hands won for you, Ray earned MORE in his day than what Floyd has earned now, Ray had Floyd's career number of fights times 4, there is NO comparison other than hand skills and technical Boxing but once again that doesn't help stamp your greatness in history over another fighter with a bigger name..

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        • Kayo
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          #14
          Originally posted by Parody
          He still wont be better than SRR. Top 3 or Top 5 for sure if he does all of that.
          oh ****...i didnt finish the rest of my post, i was on the phone with the ex.
          He'd have to do all that to come close but he isnt willing to do all that hes just looking for big money

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          • THE REED
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            #15
            Floyd chooses money over History

            sugar ray robinson died alone and broke... BUT he will be remembered as the greatest fighter to ever put on the gloves...

            floyd has this potential, but he wont take it, because he chooses money over being an ATG

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              #16
              i dont think a strictly defensive fighter could ever be # 1.

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                #17
                Originally posted by 2501
                i dont think a strictly defensive fighter could ever be # 1.
                with respect.. i dont think you can classify floyd as a STRICTLY defensive fighter based on his last win...

                although defense is a mjor part of his game

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                  upinurgirlsguts
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                  with respect.. i dont think you can classify floyd as a STRICTLY defensive fighter based on his last win...

                  although defense is a mjor part of his game
                  **** your respect son your respect doesnt pay my bills. respectively speaking of course

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by 2501
                    **** your respect son your respect doesnt pay my bills. respectively speaking of course
                    .................

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                    • RageX
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                      #20
                      He wont be better than Ray Robinson, this is a ****** thread.

                      Floyd will make the Top 10 though if he beats him.

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