If Roy Jones Jr Never Left 168.....

[bsrizpac]

Yeah, lets be honest........I said that I LOVE BRITISH FIGHTERS. No Yank has ever been good enough to beat us cos if you disagree you're a wanker.

There...fixed it for you.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

wow... obviously hopkins was the real deal considering when roy moved up he owned the division for 10 years... he was OBVIOUSLY the best, but roy was better... and they were both green

Hopkins evolved over the years, hitting his prime much later than Jones. He wasnt the best at Middleweight at that time........or even close to it. Which was my point.

[THE REED]

Hopkins evolved over the years, hitting his prime much later than Jones. He wasnt the best at Middleweight at that time........or even close to it. Which was my point.

Prove it.... 4-5 fights later he took the IBF and didnt let it go for 10 years

wasnt close to it? holy unreal biasness batman

[Dan...]

In relation to the thread title, if Roy had of stayed at 168 then there is no way Joe has the same rep. He either would not have fought Roy due to the fact that Roy was unbeatable at the weight or he would have fought him and lost convincingly.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Prove it.... 4-5 fights later he took the IBF and didnt let it go for 10 years

wasnt close to it? holy unreal biasness batman

Well a guy who hasnt won a title or had a significant fight up until getting a title shot and losing is not exactly close to being the best Middleweight out there.

Anyway I vote Option 3, Roy and Joe still would have never fought.

[rizkybizness]

Well a guy who hasnt won a title or had a significant fight up until getting a title shot and losing is not exactly close to being the best Middleweight out there.

Anyway I vote Option 3, Roy and Joe still would have never fought.

Damn right.

Roy would whoop Joe's ass across the ring ALL NIGHT baby

[THE REED]

Well a guy who hasnt won a title or had a significant fight up until getting a title shot and losing is not exactly close to being the best Middleweight out there.

Anyway I vote Option 3, Roy and Joe still would have never fought.

how can you get a title.. before having a title shot?

and he lost to roy, who was the better fighter... roy left the division, and bernard dominated it for 10 years.. hence he was the best mw fighter at the time... only losing to roy

[bsrizpac]

Damn right.

Roy would whoop Joe's ass across the ring ALL NIGHT baby

NO he's right. If Roy had stayed there, Joe would have ducked him at that weight. Just like he ducked him his whole career.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

how can you get a title.. before having a title shot?

and he lost to roy, who was the better fighter... roy left the division, and bernard dominated it for 10 years.. hence he was the best mw fighter at the time... only losing to roy

I didnt say you could. I said he hadnt had a significant fight up until getting a title shot. Stop being pedantic.

Yes......so Roy beat a contender. He didnt beat the best middleweight in the world He was simply not the best MW at the time Roy beat him. Its total ignorance. If he'd rematched Hopkins years later, you'd have a point.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

NO he's right. If Roy had stayed there, Joe would have ducked him at that weight. Just like he ducked him his whole career.

Link please?

Jeez, imagine how sandy your **** would have gotten if I had said the reverse! You're a complete and utter hypocrite