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  • #51
    Originally posted by Tunney5 View Post
    You are very wrong - clearly, you hate Calzaghe and feel some ****** need to discredit him.

    You have Johnson as a "B" opponent, but Omar Sheika was coming off a win over Glen Johnson when Calzaghe destroyed him...

    Eubank, Veit, Sheika, Brewer, Mitchell and Reid were all very good Calzaghe opponents.
    You're right i missed Eubank and Sheika.

    VEIT? Really? You know alot about this fighter? Tell me about him. Tell me about his storied career. You don't know **** about him. Why say him? Do you feel a ****** need to"credit" Calzaghe.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by HappyBoxingFan View Post
      First of all, I don't think I insulted the British in anyway. If I did, my bad.

      Second, Roy Jones Jr.?! What? What does he have to do with anything?
      If you were going to give A's B's and C's to their opponents, tell me how many A's and B's Calzaghe has and then Bernard Hopkins. This is how I see it

      Calzaghe A's: KESSLER
      Calzaghe B's: LACY

      Hopkins A's: WRIGHT, TITO, DE LA HOYA
      Hopkins B's: GLEN JOHNSON, JOPPY, TARVER

      Throw in Taylor and Jones Jr. who he fought and lost to. That's a big difference in resume. If you want to say that Manfredo and Bika are good fighters, whatever. But, if you think Calzaghe's career will be remembered on the level as Hopkins you're wrong.

      Also. Look, Ricky Hatton wanted to face the best fighters in the world. He did that. You got to respect that. Calzaghe's never shown the same interest. For whatever that's worth.
      Good post. I like the stats that you stated, some of the same things I was trying to get across in my previous few posts

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      • #53
        Originally posted by JoeCalzaghe View Post
        You intentionally missed out fighters like Eubank on Calzaghe's list and have 3 fighters who are naturally 30-50 lbs smaller than Hopkins to his A opponents.
        You know Bernard Hopkins natural weight? What are you his ****ing doctor? Are you a dietician or something? Natural weight? What the **** does that even mean?

        It seems that B-Hop's "natural weight" would be in the 160 range as that is where his best victories have come.

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        • #54
          I mean his walk around weight. He is obviously a lot bigger than these 3 guys. Don't bother trying to deny it. As someone else said, Sheika smashed Johnson just before he fought Calzaghe and Calzaghe ****d this guy. Charles Brewer should also have been the IBF champion when he fought Calzaghe if it wasn't for German judges when he was robbed against Ottke.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by juanroldan View Post
            GREAT FIGHT GREAT FIGHT GREAT FIGHT!
            never underestimate The Executioner

            Important fight? Definitely.
            Great fight? Maybe not.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by HappyBoxingFan View Post
              You're right i missed Eubank and Sheika.

              VEIT? Really? You know alot about this fighter? Tell me about him. Tell me about his storied career. You don't know **** about him. Why say him? Do you feel a ****** need to"credit" Calzaghe.
              Veit was 30-0 when Calzaghe fought him the first time. When they rematched in Germany, Veit was 45-1, his only loss being to Calzaghe.

              Of course, because you have a ****** prejudice against Europeans, you'll say he was no good despite that record, since most of his wins were against European competition, which you in your narrow mind consider inferior!

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              • #57
                Originally posted by HappyBoxingFan View Post
                You know Bernard Hopkins natural weight? What are you his ****ing doctor? Are you a dietician or something? Natural weight? What the **** does that even mean?

                It seems that B-Hop's "natural weight" would be in the 160 range as that is where his best victories have come.
                I know that Hopkins started his career at 175 and LOST HIS FIRST FIGHT. So he starved his way down to 160 so that he could be competitive, which he was, till he fought Roy Jones Jr. Lucky for Bernard, Roy moved up afterwards, or he wouldn't have had a career. A whole career beating up bums and tiny dudes like DLH and he finally fights another guy his size in Taylor, who he loses twice in a row to. So he looks to another division, takes a look at 168 and says HELL NO. He then looks at 175 and sees an extremely weight drained guy that has lost 2 of his last 5, so he goes there. Then like a coward, he fights Winky, who has never won a title above 154 and headbutts his way to a boring decision.
                Last edited by Jim Jeffries; 01-10-2008, 04:20 PM.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by gavinz1970 View Post
                  I know that Hopkins started his career at 175 and LOST HIS FIRST FIGHT. So he starved his way down to 160 so that he could be competitive, which he was, till he fought Roy Jones Jr. Lucky for Bernard, Roy moved up afterwards, or he wouldn't have had a career. A whole career beating up bums and tiny dudes like DLH and he finally fights another guy his size in Taylor, who he loses twice in a row to. So he looks to another division, takes a look at 168 and says HELL NO. He then looks at 175 and sees an extremely weight drained guy that has lost 2 of his last 5, so he goes there. Then like a coward, he fights Winky, whose never won a title above 154 and headbutts his way to a boring decision.
                  holy ****... i wish i wrote that

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by HappyBoxingFan View Post
                    You're right i missed Eubank and Sheika.

                    VEIT? Really? You know alot about this fighter? Tell me about him. Tell me about his storied career. You don't know **** about him. Why say him? Do you feel a ****** need to"credit" Calzaghe.
                    If you don't know about these fighters, then you shouldn't be arguing because you haven't studied boxing besides what gets fed to you by the usual American TV sources.

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                    • #60
                      b hop better whup on this bastard

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