How does wright make the pound for pound top 10?

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  • HotSizzle
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    #11
    Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
    Come on mate. Saying Kessler won't as an American bias. Winky isn't powerful enough to stop Kess. Hes going to take some big blows. And eventually Kess will land.
    so saying kessler won't win is bias? Idk about all that but winky sure doesn't need power to beat kessler.

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    • nmuburner22
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      #12
      Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
      Come on mate. Saying Kessler won't as an American bias. Winky isn't powerful enough to stop Kess. Hes going to take some big blows. And eventually Kess will land.
      How is that an american bias.

      Winky is one the best fighters in the HISTORY of the sport...Kessler isnt anywhere Winkys level.

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        #13
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        Wright dominated Trinidad, which moved him up to #2.

        Then he beat Soliman.

        Then he drew (if that's what you call that) with Taylor.

        Then he dominated Quartey.

        Finally, he loses a razor thin decision to Hopkins (who also is a P4P elite).

        How do you knock him from #3 to completely off the list for losing a razor thin decision to another P4P elite?
        Mundine knocked out soliman. He knocked him down 4 times before it was stopped.

        Taylor lost to Pavlik.

        Quartey rarely fought at 159, check his record, he wasn't the best at that

        He lost to Hopkins.

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          #14
          Originally posted by nmuburner22
          How is that an american bias.

          Winky is one the best fighters in the HISTORY of the sport...Kessler isnt anywhere Winkys level.
          Agree. Winkys Legacy is legendary in the modern era. But for current form, i choose Kessler.

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            #15
            Originally posted by HotSizzle
            so saying kessler won't win is bias? Idk about all that but winky sure doesn't need power to beat kessler.
            No, i think there a general conception that Winky is high up the P4P list. Even with another loss hes still going to be highly rated. Whereas fighters like abraham, Kess, Bute, Mundine, will continue to be under rated on the system, as all will most likely register big wins in 08 and not make top 20.

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            • nmuburner22
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              #16
              Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
              Agree. Winkys Legacy is legendary in the modern era. But for current form, i choose Kessler.
              Oh thats real brave...a 36 year old Winky who should be at 154..fighting a PRIME Kessler at 168.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
                Mundine knocked out soliman. He knocked him down 4 times before it was stopped.

                Taylor lost to Pavlik.

                Quartey rarely fought at 159, check his record, he wasn't the best at that

                He lost to Hopkins.
                1. Mundine knocking Soliman out doesn't make Winky's decision victory any less legitimate.

                2. Taylor was undefeated and Wright fought to a "draw" with him.

                3. The Quartey victory (much like the Soliman victory) doesn't mean anything, it is just the gap in between the big fights, and Winky didn't lose.

                4. He barely lost to Hopkins... it's not like he got blown out, and it was at a weight Wright had never fought at before.

                Anyways, the reason he was so high is because he dominated Trinidad more completely than Hopkins did.

                All I'm saying is that you can't knock the #3 P4P fighter in the sport off the charts because he lost a razor thin decision to another P4P fighter.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by nmuburner22
                  Oh thats real brave...a 36 year old Winky who should be at 154..fighting a PRIME Kessler at 168.

                  exactly. But you can't have it both ways. Vs Quartey it was big rapps on Winky for dominating him. But how often did Quartey fight at 159?

                  My point is, sure Winky is a legend of the sport. Hes a fantastic fighter. In his prime he beats most if not all. But these current crop of fighters Kess, Mund, Bute, Abraham and Sturm, Shouldn't be under rated because there from outside America, and if Winky looses again he should not be over rated in the current p4p system.

                  Im not criticizing his status in the sport, in my eyes he remains a legend.

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                  • Greatwhitehope
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                    #19
                    All got to chill out guys, it's all your own opinions.

                    Personally I don't think you can really say that Mundine would beat Wright because he knocked out Soliman.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
                      No, i think there a general conception that Winky is high up the P4P list. Even with another loss hes still going to be highly rated. Whereas fighters like abraham, Kess, Bute, Mundine, will continue to be under rated on the system, as all will most likely register big wins in 08 and not make top 20.
                      My ass... Winky is dead and gone from the P4P list if he loses again, close loss or not.

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