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Hey here we go. Thanks for the response.
I'm not "on the defensive" bud, I am incapable of being riled up by stuff like this. Been here too long for that. My post was used with the hope that someone would respond with a post offering something than the norm.
Judah was able to sustain an effective out put against Floyd until Floyd figured out what he was doing, like he does with mostly everyone, then he proceeded to turn the fight around in the middle stages of the bout. Judah was unable to change what he was doing with Mayweather. Hatton was unable to adjust with Floyd as well. He was unable to give Floyd different looks and kept going back to his security blanket hook and clinch tactics. Floyd is a damn genius at figuring out his opponents attack and interpreting cues.
Cotto has shown that he is able to adjust to his opponent to get an edge in the fight, much like Floyd does. Now he may not be quite as good as Floyd in this regard, but he is certainly more capable of capitalizing on that intangible than Judah and Hatton. Cotto has fought just about every style imaginable which has allowed him to change his own make up throughout the course of a fight. Floyd is on a different level, but it certainly helps that Cotto has had this experience.
It's not always necessarily significant that Floyd is too fast for Cotto or any of his other opponents. The thing that sets Floyd apart is that he's consistent with his quickness and he doesn't fade. Hatton showed that he could close distance and use his own speed to be effective against Floyd, but he could only do it for so long. Floyd NEVER dropped off. The same was true for Judah. Cotto is different in my opinion because he is every bit as deliberate and persistent as Floyd is with his attack. I don't believe it's a coincidence that Cotto's last 3-4 opponents, all of which where supposed to be much quicker of hand and foot than Cotto, found Miguel's hands to be MUCH faster than anticipated. He throws compact punches and is now very effective with his straight shots with either hand.
Cotto may not have the foot speed that Hatton or Judah possessed, but he understands elements of spacing with respect to the ring and his opponent. Miguel is one of the very best I have seen in recent memory when cutting off the ring because of this. He may not have quick feet, but he is able to effectively cut off the ring and close distance because he knows the correct angles to take to his opponent and he is always in position to punch.
Your given pressure fighter is going to be eaten up by Mayweather. A pressure fighter who can change their attack throughout the course of a fight can give Floyd hell though. I don't believe that Cotto is just another run-of-the-mill come forward brawler. His 31 wins against strong competition should warrant him more respect.
I agree with this. I wasn't trying to point out that Williams would be a less difficult or easy fight for Floyd, I was simply trying to induce some unique responses. My beef was with people CONTINUING to state that Cotto would be an easy fight while largely failing to explain why. As you can see from my lengthy response, I am looking for something more in-depth than, "Mayweather is faster", or, "cotto is easy to be hit and has a questionable chin". A bit redundant, don't you think?
Paul Williams may be able to do to Floyd what Dio Hurtado was able to do to Pernell Whitaker. Yes, many aspects of that fight were different, but the skill and size/length comparison is valid. Dio Hurtado was no average fighter off the street. He was able to take Pernell out of his comfort zone with his length and sharp punching ability. Williams may be able to do the same if he is able to dictate the spatial relationship, using his work rate and variety to out work Floyd.
In part 2, I'll tell you *stylistically* how I think Cotto would be a very tough test for Floyd. A bit long winded, but I think we can get some constructive dialogue going here.
I'm not "on the defensive" bud, I am incapable of being riled up by stuff like this. Been here too long for that. My post was used with the hope that someone would respond with a post offering something than the norm.
Judah was able to sustain an effective out put against Floyd until Floyd figured out what he was doing, like he does with mostly everyone, then he proceeded to turn the fight around in the middle stages of the bout. Judah was unable to change what he was doing with Mayweather. Hatton was unable to adjust with Floyd as well. He was unable to give Floyd different looks and kept going back to his security blanket hook and clinch tactics. Floyd is a damn genius at figuring out his opponents attack and interpreting cues.
Cotto has shown that he is able to adjust to his opponent to get an edge in the fight, much like Floyd does. Now he may not be quite as good as Floyd in this regard, but he is certainly more capable of capitalizing on that intangible than Judah and Hatton. Cotto has fought just about every style imaginable which has allowed him to change his own make up throughout the course of a fight. Floyd is on a different level, but it certainly helps that Cotto has had this experience.
It's not always necessarily significant that Floyd is too fast for Cotto or any of his other opponents. The thing that sets Floyd apart is that he's consistent with his quickness and he doesn't fade. Hatton showed that he could close distance and use his own speed to be effective against Floyd, but he could only do it for so long. Floyd NEVER dropped off. The same was true for Judah. Cotto is different in my opinion because he is every bit as deliberate and persistent as Floyd is with his attack. I don't believe it's a coincidence that Cotto's last 3-4 opponents, all of which where supposed to be much quicker of hand and foot than Cotto, found Miguel's hands to be MUCH faster than anticipated. He throws compact punches and is now very effective with his straight shots with either hand.
Cotto may not have the foot speed that Hatton or Judah possessed, but he understands elements of spacing with respect to the ring and his opponent. Miguel is one of the very best I have seen in recent memory when cutting off the ring because of this. He may not have quick feet, but he is able to effectively cut off the ring and close distance because he knows the correct angles to take to his opponent and he is always in position to punch.
Your given pressure fighter is going to be eaten up by Mayweather. A pressure fighter who can change their attack throughout the course of a fight can give Floyd hell though. I don't believe that Cotto is just another run-of-the-mill come forward brawler. His 31 wins against strong competition should warrant him more respect.
Someone who could hit him with long straight shots and stay out of range with a good deal of speed and boxing skill is what is needed to beat floyd because it would force him to be the one to apply the pressure opening up more chances for the other boxer to be the counter puncher instead.
Paul Williams may be able to do to Floyd what Dio Hurtado was able to do to Pernell Whitaker. Yes, many aspects of that fight were different, but the skill and size/length comparison is valid. Dio Hurtado was no average fighter off the street. He was able to take Pernell out of his comfort zone with his length and sharp punching ability. Williams may be able to do the same if he is able to dictate the spatial relationship, using his work rate and variety to out work Floyd.
In part 2, I'll tell you *stylistically* how I think Cotto would be a very tough test for Floyd. A bit long winded, but I think we can get some constructive dialogue going here.
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