Watching UFC 75 leads me to believe...

[HotSizzle]

4 oz gloves should allow for harder hits, even if you don't want to throw full force into the punch. It's not like it was before when they wore no gloves and you had to throw with a hammer strike and not with your knuckels hitting.

Even when Tyson threw looping shots, they weren't as wide (nor slow) as Chucks and Tyson could get his hand back in quick fashion.

The Kickboxers are the better punchers for sure.

It must be like learning how to throw a baseball properly. Boxers have been doing it for so long it's beautiful looking, although not everybody: Mayorga isn't a good example of a perfect puncher.

Floyd's style is the problem and it's true, it's not going to work in MMA.

10 years from now, MMA might have some Hybrid type fighters to make everything look nice.


Thanks for the name in your Avatar. It's the first thing my eye catches when I see your post and everytime I'm like "damn, she is nice."

Well it is what it is, I don't like when people try to compare and say mma is better or boxing is better, I always end up defending both of them LOL. I just enjoy watching both of them.

No prob I think I have the best avatar on this forum lol you should check out horus avy he gots a fine ass girl on there lol

[El Chicano]

That MMA Fighters don't spend too much time on their boxing game.
Liddell was throwing a bunch of wide looping punches, as well was Silva, and they didn't even very them. There were a few occasions where I spotted the opportunity for Liddell to sneak in an uppercut and knock Silva out. Rather then duck and slip punches they put their arm in the way and peary a shot or simply not block it at all and keep swinging freely. I have noticed that Quinton Jackson has some hand skills, maybe the reason why he running the ***** right now? I dunno, but from what I've seen he is all around good and that counter right to that weak ass body shot Liddell threw at him was well executed.

Anyway, Maybe this is why Boxing and UFC is so apples and oranges?
While Boxers have great hand to hand skills, UFC fighters are experts on the floor.. A territory few Boxers have been in inside a ring before. But most UFC fighters lack the stand up skills a boxer has.

I seriously doubt that if it was a fist fight with no wrestling involved, with the same UFC gloves, Boxers would get dealt though like many claim they would.
That's their ace in the hole when it comes to their sport and this (boxing) is ours when it comes to our sport.


Anyway, watching the fight with a bunch of UFC fans and MMA fans after they were all pumped and exited talking about how great of a fight it had been and I was left scratching my head... the fight was so short to me and the action not even that great. I've tried to get into it but I simply just can't.
I find Pride more entertaining though dunno why.. but for now, I think I would rather just stick to watching boxing.

MMA fighters use a different "boxing" approach. It's not like the sport of Boxing at all. First off, MMA fighters cannot defend the same as in regular boxing, the gloves are much smaller; putting your hands up will not help much, watch Tito Ortiz vs Chuck Liddell. Second, MMA fighters do not stand as angled against thier opponent. They are taught to stand more squared up in order to be ready to wrestle and deliver and defend against leg kicks. In MMA, fighters cannot go in there with a conventional boxing stance. As far as Boxing skills themselves, I agree that they are not on the level of the most accomplished pro Boxers. But keep in mind, MMA is a fairly young sport and much more dynamic. The top pro Boxers have been boxing since they were 5 - 10 years old, and they've only been boxing. MMA fighters generally begin thier sport after high school, and they are learning all forms of fighting, not just boxing. So yeah, the "boxing" skill level will be significantly different.

[El Chicano]

Well it is what it is, I don't like when people try to compare and say mma is better or boxing is better, I always end up defending both of them LOL. I just enjoy watching both of them.

No prob I think I have the best avatar on this forum lol you should check out horus avy he gots a fine ass girl on there lol

Me too, they should not be compared, I enjoy both as individual sports, comparing them is like comparing football and basketball. This "rivalry is getting a bit ridiculous.

[MELLY-MEL...]

i would think these guys would try and throw shorter, straight punches! they are very effective, and i would think they would be better against being taken down, or hit with some of those ******ed haymakers, since they are not over committing themselves, getting of balance, and out of position! always works well against a wide puncher for me! maybe i am misssing something!

[Sin City]

Me too, they should not be compared, I enjoy both as individual sports, comparing them is like comparing football and basketball. This "rivalry is getting a bit ridiculous.

The only reason why theres a rivalry in the first place is because ufc fighters started running their mouths about how they are all around better athletes, were better conditioned and fought in a much rougher sport. Acting like boxers are one dimensional, like Floyd would really try to use the philly shell in a street fight, c'mon. The sport of boxing should have been dead by now by what UFC experts were saying, after all the UFC was killing boxing off right? Everyone knows that boxing is doing boxing harm and not anything else, but lemme ask you this..who started comparing who?

I do agree that they are like apples and oranges in a way but they are still fight sports none the less and in many aspects boxing laid the foundation for ufc. How you gonna take the rounds, the scorecards, the corners, the weight classes, one minute brakes, etc as well as other aspects from one sport then completely diss it?

[Brave_turtle]

The only reason why theres a rivalry in the first place is because ufc fighters started running their mouths about how they are all around better athletes, were better conditioned and fought in a much rougher sport. Acting like boxers are one dimensional, like Floyd would really try to use the philly shell in a street fight, c'mon. The sport of boxing should have been dead by now by what UFC experts were saying, after all the UFC was killing boxing off right? Everyone knows that boxing is doing boxing harm and not anything else, but lemme ask you this..who started comparing who?

I do agree that they are like apples and oranges in a way but they are still fight sports none the less and in many aspects boxing laid the foundation for ufc. How you gonna take the rounds, the scorecards, the corners, the weight classes, one minute brakes, etc as well as other aspects from one sport then completely diss it?

In other words...

You wanted to bring that Boxing Vs MMA type of topic back?

[Sin City]

In other words...

You wanted to bring that Boxing Vs MMA type of topic back?

nah, this topic was about hand skills. it got turned into that though.

[HotSizzle]

nah, this topic was about hand skills. it got turned into that though.

well that dont make sense lol, because obviously boxers are gonna have the better hand skills, thats all they have to use even a blind man would see that lol

[SkillspayBills]

It's a waste to discuss MMA on this board.

[macman]

Thought it was a really entertaining fight myself
- one of the best I've seen in MMA for a while.

Comparable to Bika-Codrington in a lot of ways, although Bika-Codrington had more consistent action & a stoppage to finish it.


And I am pretty well educated in the ground game - am a former Judo state champion - but so many of the recent MMA fights have bored the living hell out of me.

They either stall each other out on the ground, or the stronger guy gets on top & gradually pummels the other guy, which is not an edifying spectacle.

A ground game with lots of scrambling, change-overs, & slick submissions can be very entertaining, but that is incredibly rare.