Should there be a Super Heavyweight Division?

[TheGreatA]

Tyson was 235 and Lewis was 250 for that fight. He seemed helpless because he was over 10 years past his prime.

[Nwahs !!]

If a 235 weight limit for heavyweight were to be put in place, this would be a heavyweight vs super heavyweight. watch the video, and see how ridiculous this fight is. or am I wrong?

You are wrong, and all of your nonsense makes sense now that I see your avatar.

[-Swizzy-]

You are wrong, and all of your nonsense makes sense now that I see your avatar.

whats in the avatar that you don't like? I like boxing and MMA. so what? and I'm a french canadian like georges st.pierre and he is the best p4p mma fighter righr now. why do you judge?

[-Swizzy-]

Tyson was 235 and Lewis was 250 for that fight. He seemed helpless because he was over 10 years past his prime.

past his prime? lennox is a year older than tyson.

[The Troll]

Absolutely, but at this point the entire heavyweight division is so void of talent that dividing whatever talent pool there is left in the division would be detrimental to boxing itself. But I agree that there needs to be a Super HWT division beginning at 225 or 230lbs....too bad all the great American boxers (potential) are playing football.

There was football in the 70's too though and there arn't that many total guys who play football professionally because there's no minor league system. The NFL and then the CFL are the only 2 professional football leagues.

[TheGreatA]

past his prime? lennox is a year older than tyson.

Seems like you don't know much about these two fighters (or choose to ignore the information for your own argument's benefit's).

Tyson's prime was when he was the undisputed champion in the 80's.
He was in his early 20's then.
Tyson started to slowly decline after Rooney left his corner but he was still world class when he lost to Buster Douglas.
After the Ruddock fights he spent years in prison and came back heavier and his style became much wilder with minimal defense.
By the time he fought Lewis he was completely spent (because of his injuries, inactiveness & training habits), his style was extremely physical and demanded you to be at your absolute physical prime to work.

I think everyone knows that Lennox Lewis was what you'd call a 'late bloomer'.

[landmine950]

Think about it!

MW 160
SMW 168 = +8
LHW 175 = +7 ?? huh? should be more!
CW 190 = +15
Hw is 190+
so a 190 lb guy can be forced to fight a 325lb guy! (Valuev!)
I think LHW should be higher and then reasonably the CW div should be higher also
say to 100 KG (220.5 lbs)
BUT! untill the BIG HWs at say 250+ DOMINATE the division there is no REASON to create a SHW div!
as long as the smaller guys can compete there is no NEED for a SHW div
but I do think that the CW div limit should be moved up.
(Oh ya and i would rename them reversing the CW and LHW names)

SAY

MW 160 (72.5 kg)
SMW 176.5 (80.0 kg) +16.5
CW 198.5 (90.0 kg) +22.0
LHW 220.5 (100 kg) +22.0
HW 100 kg+

This make sense to me!

[TheGreatA]

Ibragimov is 220 and he is a world champion. No need for any new divisions,
the smaller guys can compete against the heavier guys with their speed.
Briggs vs Ibragimov = a perfect example of this.

Chagaev is under 230 and he whooped Valuev.

[-Swizzy-]

Ibragimov is 220 and he is a world champion. No need for any new divisions,
the smaller guys can compete against the heavier guys with their speed.
Briggs vs Ibragimov = a perfect example of this.

Chagaev is under 230 and he whooped Valuev.

yeah but, it was a boring fight to watch. as I said, either the big guy takes advantage with his size, or the smaller guy takes advantage with his speed and elusivness. But either way, its a very boring fight. I mean, how many pay-per-view buys were there for the chagaev-valuev fight? How many valuev fights have entertained you? Now imagine a guy closer in height to valuev fighting him, that would be entertaining. And don't tell me that Lewis-Klitchsko wasn't more entertaining than lewis-tyson. Its the way it is, I think the heavyweight division will benefit from this. Its just to weed out the big slow bums, and give them their own super heavyweight division which will have its own attraction cuz of the name of the division.

[-Swizzy-]

why isn't this thread catching on? I really want to know what ppl think. I though more would be interested. I want hear your 2 cents plz. Cuz I think this is an interesting subject. this is one thread that I believe in and will keep pushing until I am satisfied. I'm not doing this for points, I don't care about points.