Should there be a Super Heavyweight Division?

[-Swizzy-]

I get what your saying and you're right, I just don't think you can change it that easily, you can't have two heavyweight divisions, the heavyweight champion of the world is like the top thing in boxing and then placing another division above it would wwater down the mystique associated with it, its definitely something that deserves to be looked into though.

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thats true. this is the best point I've seen going against making of another division. so far I was leaning towards the creation of this division but now I'm back in between, with the argument of 'mystique'. I guess the super heavyweights would get that mystique which doesn't seem right. but as far as entertainment goes, I still think creating this division would improve the entertainment value.

[ferocity]

No super heavyweight

And back to the 6 oz gloves or at least back to 8oz gloves.

[macman]

MW 160
SMW 168 = +8
LHW 175 = +7 ?? huh? should be more!
CW 190 = +15
Hw is 190+
so a 190 lb guy can be forced to fight a 325lb guy! (Valuev!)
I think LHW should be higher and then reasonably the CW div should be higher also
say to 100 KG (220.5 lbs)
BUT! untill the BIG HWs at say 250+ DOMINATE the division there is no REASON to create a SHW div!
as long as the smaller guys can compete there is no NEED for a SHW div
but I do think that the CW div limit should be moved up.
(Oh ya and i would rename them reversing the CW and LHW names)

SAY

MW 160 (72.5 kg)
SMW 176.5 (80.0 kg) +16.5
CW 198.5 (90.0 kg) +22.0
LHW 220.5 (100 kg) +22.0
HW 100 kg+

This make sense to me!

Well though out, and I agree with most of this -
ie. weights should be changed, widening LHW & Cruiser, but think that the names should stay the same, as it will create too much confusion.

The Cruiserweights are really starting to mature as a division, & have a fair bit of depth these days.
An extra 10 pounds or so gives them even more depth.

As for a Super-Heavyweight division, there just isn't the talent to make a division, or the need that I can see.

Chagaev beat Valuev in an entertaining fight, & Valuev's the best of the really big guys.
He follows a long tradition
- Dempsey hammering the likes of Willard, Firpo & Fulton;
- Louis hammenng Buddy Baer
- Max Baer hammering Prime Canera,
etc. etc. etc.

[nmuburner22]

Yeah Super Heavyweight would be perfect.

That would stop 5-10..220 pound guys from fighting guys ...6-6...245 pounds.

[Nwahs !!]

Yeah Super Heavyweight would be perfect.

That would stop 5-10..220 pound guys from fighting guys ...6-6...245 pounds.

You know, I might take your opinion more seriously if you weren't a self admitted pedophile.

[-Swizzy-]

Yeah Super Heavyweight would be perfect.

That would stop 5-10..220 pound guys from fighting guys ...6-6...245 pounds.

good point.

[hellraiser3816]

Yes in deed I mean these ****s is way out of hand outweighing some one by25-65 pounds that will end up getting people either brain damaged & ruined or just plain ruined. Would it be Fair for you to beat on some that much smaller than you as a man you know it's wrong as a man you dont Hit women, Old ladies ,children or pick on people that much smaller than you @ all.

I mean if you was that dude in the smaller divisions such as 140 -147 & you come in on fight night 140 fight 143-145 & your oppnet comes in @ 154-168 is that fair to you when you may be 5'3 & there are lets say 5'9-6'0 its not good for the smaller guy You fighting ****er Middle & Super Middle weight & fight was for 140 division....

This gets people killed we are now watching the Real Live IVAN DRAGO's needs to be more weigt restrictions for day of the fight & new Super Heavy division

[NAPO]

good point.

hahaha bumping threads

[-Swizzy-]

I think this thread is needed today. this fight is the reason I think a super heavyweight division is needed. I wouldn't even say that klitch is the better boxer than sultan but he dominated him as if it were just a sparring session for wlad.. this fight is the equivalent of a pavlik vs hatton. it wouldn't be fair to have that fight and it wouldn't be allowed so why is this fight allowed? I say heavyweight limit of 235 with a super heavyweight division.

[JC Warrior]

There should be a super heavyweight division when there is a super heavyweight to rule it. In the past 10 or 20 years there hasn't been a champion so dominant that it makes the disparity in weight so great that another division is needed. 215 lb Holyfield took on guys who outweighed him by 30+ and the fights were competitive, Tyson before him took on very heavy guys and usually dominated them. No real need for a super heavy division in my estimation.