Does Floyd break under pressure??

[Smokin__]

Mayweather's brawling was his way of adapting to the southpaw style. As Ray Mancini said, when you get hit you have two options, cover up, or throw back. Mayweather was getting hit, his covering up wasn't working so he chose to throw back. It made for an action packed fight, but most likely not the kind of fight Floyd would have liked to fight.

The philly shell is dependent on the ability to use the right hand to block left hooks and catch jabs while rolling right hands with the shoulder and blocking body shots with with the left arm placed across the stomach.

Against a south paw, it is not possible to catch the jab, or roll the left hand. This is why the philly shell is awful against southpaws.

It is possible to roll right hooks, but usually any attempt to roll the right jab causes you to expose yourself to strait left hand down the middle.

A southpaw will open you up like a can opener.

1) Mayweather does not use a philly shell.
2) It's funny how you are looking at the flaws of the shell. If it's ortho vs. southpaw the ortho fighter will step to his right away from the power hand of the southpaw and try to time him with a right.
3) A fighter is not dependent on a style. The style depends on the fighter.

[passey]

I wouldn't say break, it's more like adjusts.

[boxing_pundit85]

To the Cotto & Margarito fans and floyd haters I ask this question. What in Floyd's career has lead you believe that the pressure of Cotto and Margarito will cause floyd to crack? Have you seen Floyd's fights against Chavez, sosa, vargas, Castillo (twice),corralles, baldomir, hatton, etc. They were all pressure fighters who brought immense pressure in a different way. They all kept coming and yet floyd showed the mental toughness to deal with it. What can cotto and Margarito do that floyd hasn't seen before? Floyd has fought every boxing style before while Cotto and Margarito haven't. Floyd is not a quitter and will find a way to adjust.

good point, i was about to tell u to **** off lol

[Nwahs !!]

Maybe he should hire Winky Wright to teach him his defense for fighting southpaws... ******, and never going to happen, but that really would be a good acquisition for Floyd.

That all makes a lot of sense. He would have to rely on Whitaker-like head movement and elusivity for counter opportunities.

That is the problem for Floyd, as good as he is at what he does, he cannot really execute the Whitaker style effectively. Pure head movement defense is not really Floyd's forte. He would be much better served to either learn to mirror his style so that he fights southpaws from the southpaw stance, or to work on his Winky Wright defense.

Until then, southpaws will continue to remain Floyd's Achilles heel.

[Smokin__]

Maybe he should hire Winky Wright to teach him his defense for fighting southpaws... ******, and never going to happen, but that really would be a good acquisition for Floyd.

That all makes a lot of sense. He would have to rely on Whitaker-like head movement and elusivity for counter opportunities.

Nah, he's talking ****.

Mayweather does not fight in the philly shell. He fights in that awkward stance only against slower, more limited foes.

He never fought that way against hatton or DLH. Only against guys like Baldomir/Gatti.

DUde should do his homework.

[Nwahs !!]

1) Mayweather does not use a philly shell.
2) It's funny how you are looking at the flaws of the shell. If it's ortho vs. southpaw the ortho fighter will step to his right away from the power hand of the southpaw and try to time him with a right.
3) A fighter is not dependent on a style. The style depends on the fighter.

1) Floyd uses a slightley modified Philly Shell, if you do not know this, there is no point in arguing with you.

2) Seeing as we are discussing fighters that could potentially beat Floyd, looking at the flaws in his defense is a prudent tool for analysis.

3) Im not sure what the point of #3 was.

[Fox McCloud]

Nah, he's talking ****.

Mayweather does not fight in the philly shell. He fights in that awkward stance only against slower, more limited foes.

He never fought that way against hatton or DLH. Only against guys like Baldomir/Gatti.

DUde should do his homework.

He used it against Henry "World Beater" Bruseles though!

To be honest, I don't remember seeing it against De La Hoya or Hatton...

I'll have to watch the Judah fight again at some point to check this to be sure.

[Nwahs !!]

He used it against Henry "World Beater" Bruseles though!

To be honest, I don't remember seeing it against De La Hoya or Hatton...

I'll have to watch the Judah fight again at some point to check this to be sure.

Mayweather abandoned the shell against Judah. He fought almost exclusively with a hands up walk him down, Winky Wright style.

[Fox McCloud]

Mayweather abandoned the shell against Judah. He fought almost exclusively with a hands up walk him down, Winky Wright style.

I do remember that happening right before the low blow.

[Smokin__]

1) Floyd uses a slightley modified Philly Shell, if you do not know this, there is no point in arguing with you.

2) Seeing as we are discussing fighters that could potentially beat Floyd, looking at the flaws in his defense is a prudent tool for analysis.

3) Im not sure what the point of #3 was.

1) Your right he does. But there are a few differences.

James Toney/Hops protected their left side of their face with the right hand. Mayweather protects his right side.

Mayweather is more mobile in his approach when he uses that stance than most philly shell guys, not named Hops.

And when have you seen Floyd use this sideway stances stance against a world class opponent? Surely not against G. Hernandez. Surely not against Judah. Surely not against Hatton. Surely not against DLH.

I can go on and on. He uses this stance when his opponent is outgunned. He fights more like his uncle than his Pops.

Oh, and yeah, you should just stop talking.

There is flaws in every style. The winksters style is susceptible to body shots and uppercuts.