YAHOO: "Why Floyd shouldn't go into MMA"

[boxing_pundit85]

mma= wannabe athletes who make decent entertainment.
boxing= world class athletes who compete in a great sport that is also entertaining. so that mma guy can shut the **** up. if floyd trained in mma for a year he would be murdering guys. floyd is a world class athlete, yeah he would lose now, but with training he is the creme de la creme in anything fighting related. and boxing is part of mixed martial arts, and look at how pathetic their boxing skills are when they fight. they arent athletes they are entertainers who sacrifice their body for a buck. mma fans and fighters need to know their role.

[eazy_mas]

well Floyd said he wont rush into MMA but first study it. That what I heard first.

Most people think Floyd is going straight away to the MMA with only his boxing skills

[HeartAttack]

I've trained both, and quite frankly laying on the ground in defense smoetimes affords me more rest than a guy pressuring me on the ropes. Sure MMA can be more tiring at times though, the focus trully is on strength and not so much on stamina. Thing is, MMA is tough and fun, but boxing is tougher and requires more skill to be an elite. Put it this way, a boxer has a better chance of beating a elite MMA guy, then vice versa. As for striking, I went to a local Gracie gym here ini Orlando with a buddie of mine who trains there. We worked grappling for three days and shooting and sprawling. No real contact. Then on Saturdays they have the 4oz combat no holds bar fight day. I drew one of their better fighters and my fat ass stopped a take down stood the guy straight up dropped an elbow on his forehead and then one-two'd his ass unconscious. I'm by no means a skilled fighter in boxing. I train and spar but you wouldn't see me fighting for the trans-american cruiserweight title let alone a world title ever. But yet i abolish a guy who had been doing this 14 years (or so he claimed) I fought other guys on other occasions and didn't have the same dramatic success, but I won 4 out of 5 fights on those "sparring" days before I left.

[eazy_mas]

I've trained both, and quite frankly laying on the ground in defense smoetimes affords me more rest than a guy pressuring me on the ropes. Sure MMA can be more tiring at times though, the focus trully is on strength and not so much on stamina. Thing is, MMA is tough and fun, but boxing is tougher and requires more skill to be an elite. Put it this way, a boxer has a better chance of beating a elite MMA guy, then vice versa. As for striking, I went to a local Gracie gym here ini Orlando with a buddie of mine who trains there. We worked grappling for three days and shooting and sprawling. No real contact. Then on Saturdays they have the 4oz combat no holds bar fight day. I drew one of their better fighters and my fat ass stopped a take down stood the guy straight up dropped an elbow on his forehead and then one-two'd his ass unconscious. I'm by no means a skilled fighter in boxing. I train and spar but you wouldn't see me fighting for the trans-american cruiserweight title let alone a world title ever. But yet i abolish a guy who had been doing this 14 years (or so he claimed) I fought other guys on other occasions and didn't have the same dramatic success, but I won 4 out of 5 fights on those "sparring" days before I left.

Intersting.

People think that MMA is more realistic the boxing but I tend to disagree because in MMA most fighter go one-on-one and most of the time is a ground battle but in real life sitaution fight end in an instant. If it grapple you need to do you looks quick and disable you oppenet fast which is pretty hard to do.

I trained boxing is is a tough sport to be in. But boxing is just one tool to win a fight. In the MMA theme it not boxing skills or grappling tech wins you the fight but it how you use them. boxing and BJJ is just tools for winning

[Benny Leonard]

Don't let your boxing bias get in the way.

You guys are missing some of the points he is making. Boxers are at a disadvantage if they only know boxing, that is a fact. Taking leg kicks is harsh and a boxer who doesn't take leg kicks, needs time to adjust to taking the pounding that comes from shots more powerful than a punch, specifically to the legs. Seriously, how many have you been kicked by a good kick-striker? The **** hurts like a MF the first time it happens, but you do adjust as you build up and like boxing, when you get hit in a match, because of the adrenaline pumping, the feeling isn’t nearly as bad as when you are just sitting around talk **** with your friends and some **** comes up for a laugh and kicks you in the shin…that’s right Mike, I’m talking to you piece of ****.

Anyway, I’ve always said, if you took the top fighters in boxing, with time, the proper training from the right trainer who knows his ****, they would be just as successful, but the key here is timing, patience, training, training by the right teacher. Especially this, if you took someone like Tyson at a young age and trained him in MMA, he would have been just as successful. Hell, even Liddell’s trainer said if he had Tyson, with some time, he would be tearing **** apart in MMA.


Some of the things I dislike about some of the MMA guys when they talk about boxing, and the majority do give a hell of a lot of credit to boxers, but they act like a boxer would get torn apart within seconds, even though it has been shown fights have ended in seconds from a fighter that only used his hand strikes, and I doubt any of those guys are at the level of some of the top fighters that we have seen in the sport...especially using those "tiny gloves." So boxers do have a chance. And lastly, they act like it takes 30 years to learn MMA fighting...give me a break. All things take time, this is true, but with the right trainer(s), and that is key, with some time, and with your natural ability (and I'm talking about top level MFs here), you can do well. I can train for the next 16 years, I will never be as quick, strong, powerful, etc. as a Tyson or move like an Ali, just like the only time I'll be anywhere near making an NFL team is when I play Madden and create a player with my name. Some guys just have it, like John Holmes and his 12 inch ****.

[hello2007]

the fact that a boxer can go to mma and do good shows how **** mma is. A mma dude can't go into boxing and do good. Ever

[hello2007]

even kickboxers can go into mma and do good. Look at crocop that guy ****ed **** up, for some time. All he was doing was kicks too, he barley went to the ground. Then some mma guy finally knocked him out and they were acting like they just won the superbowl.

[TheGreatA]

Davis is a good MMA fighter with tons of heart but he failed as a boxer.

Unlike in MMA, in boxing a single loss like his is devastating. His backers probably dropped him and his career after padding his record up with bums until he lost to one.

He is probably bitter at boxing because of that.

[Benny Leonard]

Davis is a good MMA fighter with tons of heart but he failed as a boxer.

Unlike in MMA, in boxing a single loss like his is devastating. His backers probably dropped him and his career after padding his record up with bums until he lost to one.

He is probably bitter at boxing because of that.

Of course he is bitter, it's human nature to give yourself an excuse why you ****** at something.

[TheGreatA]

Just stating the reasons on why he sounds very bitter at boxing.
Don't take it as an attack on boxing by MMA but rather as the ramblings of someone who didn't make it in boxing and feels like he got screwed.

I give Davis a lot of credit and I'm always looking forward to see him fight because he is exciting and fights his heart out every time.