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  • BennyST
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    #101
    God damn it, I can't stand this argument! It is so utterly ridiculous. Anyone arguing for either sport being better are complete chumps. Most people forget they are both sports with rules. Neither one is better for 'real' fighting on the street. If anyone here has grown up in a dangerous area you would know that the best 'street' fighters don't fight with fists or kicking or any of that ****. They will stick a knife in you (or just shoot you) and then ten of their friends will stomp your head when you fall over in shock. You will also never get some absolute psychotic nut job that was conceived by a fungal filth in a back water scungy gutter come raging at you not caring about being taken down or hit but only going for your eyes with intentions that would haunt your dreams. Bye bye sight.

    To also say one takes more training than the other is nonsense as well. They have completely different training methods and either one at the upper end of the spectrum is very, very difficult. The guy in the article saying MMA is harder is probably training harder now for MMA than he ever did in boxing which is why it's harder for him and would be the reason he is doing better in MMA. He likes MMA more so would train harder for it. Two guys at the same level both train just as hard. There is simply a different focus on training methods.

    MMA is still very young and the competition is not nearly as fierce as in boxing which has international amateur competition and is an Olympic sport. When it has been around for longer it will have the same athletic base for it's athletes that will dominate the sport just like boxing. Like it or not to be the best in the world in boxing is still harder, at the moment, than it is for MMA. The competition has ten times the numbers base than MMA. MMA is gaining ground and in another twenty or thirty years will have guys that are stunning athletes ruling it that have gone through difficult amateur trials. In another twenty years a guy like Liddell will look ****. They will have fitter, faster more athletic guys that will have jumped him faster than he could blink now... much like 'Rampage' did.

    Anyway, their is no basis for argument in this...as anyone with common sense will see, boxing would lose in an MMA fight and an MMA fighter will lose in a boxing match. Both would lose against a good 'street' fighter 'cause both would be shot or stabbed and die or have their eyes torn out....or at least go to hospital.

    One sport will never be superior to the other no matter how much the macho tools braying for blood on either side would like to say theirs is. They have different skill sets, different rules, vastly different backgrounds and if Floyd Mayweather is made to look like an idiot for losing to someone in an MMA fight he must get the chance for a rematch in a boxing ring favouring his rules and the best fighter in MMA will look like just as big a tool as Floyd would have. The simple fact is though, no prime top boxer will EVER step into an MMA fight and vice versa....Though, and I'm saying this imagining everyone here enjoys boxing more, why is it that no top boxing dogs are asking the top MMA fighters to come into a boxing ring and 'see who the better fighter is?'...? It seems to me that it's only ever MMA guys challenging boxers to come and fight in MMA and see who the tougher guy is. I haven't once heard a boxer challenge an MMA guy to step into the ring...why is that?

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      #102
      Originally posted by BennyST
      God damn it, I can't stand this argument! It is so utterly ridiculous. Anyone arguing for either sport being better are complete chumps. Most people forget they are both sports with rules. Neither one is better for 'real' fighting on the street. If anyone here has grown up in a dangerous area you would know that the best 'street' fighters don't fight with fists or kicking or any of that ****. They will stick a knife in you (or just shoot you) and then ten of their friends will stomp your head when you fall over in shock. You will also never get some absolute psychotic nut job that was conceived by a fungal filth in a back water scungy gutter come raging at you not caring about being taken down or hit but only going for your eyes with intentions that would haunt your dreams. Bye bye sight.

      To also say one takes more training than the other is nonsense as well. They have completely different training methods and either one at the upper end of the spectrum is very, very difficult. The guy in the article saying MMA is harder is probably training harder now for MMA than he ever did in boxing which is why it's harder for him and would be the reason he is doing better in MMA. He likes MMA more so would train harder for it. Two guys at the same level both train just as hard. There is simply a different focus on training methods.

      MMA is still very young and the competition is not nearly as fierce as in boxing which has international amateur competition and is an Olympic sport. When it has been around for longer it will have the same athletic base for it's athletes that will dominate the sport just like boxing. Like it or not to be the best in the world in boxing is still harder, at the moment, than it is for MMA. The competition has ten times the numbers base than MMA. MMA is gaining ground and in another twenty or thirty years will have guys that are stunning athletes ruling it that have gone through difficult amateur trials. In another twenty years a guy like Liddell will look ****. They will have fitter, faster more athletic guys that will have jumped him faster than he could blink now... much like 'Rampage' did.

      Anyway, their is no basis for argument in this...as anyone with common sense will see, boxing would lose in an MMA fight and an MMA fighter will lose in a boxing match. Both would lose against a good 'street' fighter 'cause both would be shot or stabbed and die or have their eyes torn out....or at least go to hospital.

      One sport will never be superior to the other no matter how much the macho tools braying for blood on either side would like to say theirs is. They have different skill sets, different rules, vastly different backgrounds and if Floyd Mayweather is made to look like an idiot for losing to someone in an MMA fight he must get the chance for a rematch in a boxing ring favouring his rules and the best fighter in MMA will look like just as big a tool as Floyd would have. The simple fact is though, no prime top boxer will EVER step into an MMA fight and vice versa....Though, and I'm saying this imagining everyone here enjoys boxing more, why is it that no top boxing dogs are asking the top MMA fighters to come into a boxing ring and 'see who the better fighter is?'...? It seems to me that it's only ever MMA guys challenging boxers to come and fight in MMA and see who the tougher guy is. I haven't once heard a boxer challenge an MMA guy to step into the ring...why is that?

      I agree with your point about the sports being night and day in many respects, and that we shouldn't compare them..but I do divulge from your view in two ways:

      1.) Street fighting still exsists. Maybe in the ******, or when you're being mugged, your assailant always uses a knife or gun. I've been out in many tough areas, though, where people get pissed and don't have a knife or gun and decide to throw down. At the club, every time I go, some drunk **** thinks a guy was looking at his girl wrong and starts a fight. I've also seen people beat down on the street for an assortment of reasons. Today's working man may want to beat the **** out of you without risking assault with a deadly weapon- ha.

      2.) MMA may never become an Olympic tradition that calls to amazing athletes. Today's crop may be the best it gets. Boxing will succeed because it's been around forever...right now UFC is doing well but there have been many fad sports that don't catch; like when Vince McMahon of the WWE tried to start a football league...the XFL? Yes, UFC has already become successful...but it needs to grow or it'll never be anything but what it is right now...and that's yet to be seen if it'll happen. MMA itself has been around for awhile now and not blown-up...we'll see if the UFC thing is going to continue to gain ground or not.

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        #103
        Originally posted by Njord777
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        1.) Street fighting still exsists. Maybe in the ******, or when you're being mugged, your assailant always uses a knife or gun. I've been out in many tough areas, though, where people get pissed and don't have a knife or gun and decide to throw down. At the club, every time I go, some drunk **** thinks a guy was looking at his girl wrong and starts a fight. I've also seen people beat down on the street for an assortment of reasons. Today's working man may want to beat the **** out of you without risking assault with a deadly weapon- ha.

        2.) MMA may never become an Olympic tradition that calls to amazing athletes. Today's crop may be the best it gets. Boxing will succeed because it's been around forever...right now UFC is doing well but there have been many fad sports that don't catch; like when Vince McMahon of the WWE tried to start a football league...the XFL? Yes, UFC has already become successful...but it needs to grow or it'll never be anything but what it is right now...and that's yet to be seen if it'll happen. MMA itself has been around for awhile now and not blown-up...we'll see if the UFC thing is going to continue to gain ground or not.

        Indeed. It is possible it won't catch on and become much bigger than it is. If that is true it will never get the level boxing is at. In regards to the street fighting bit I was talking more about a vicious renowned street/gang/crazy fighter (some guy that has grown up with brutal violence as his life, not your middle class drunk angry suit), not just your typical pub brawl between two drunk goons that flail at each other like fools and end up just ripping each others shirts to pieces.

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          #104
          Originally posted by BennyST
          Indeed. It is possible it won't catch on and become much bigger than it is. If that is true it will never get the level boxing is at. In regards to the street fighting bit I was talking more about a vicious renowned street/gang/crazy fighter (some guy that has grown up with brutal violence as his life, not your middle class drunk angry suit), not just your typical pub brawl between two drunk goons that flail at each other like fools and end up just ripping each others shirts to pieces.
          Haha, yeah....but you wouldn't know how many times I see guys like this get into brawls where someone gets KTFO :

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          • BennyST
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            #105
            Where I live now is being quickly taken over by ****suckers exactly like that. You've really hit the spot with that vid man or whoever made it! LOL

            God I can't stand those type of tools. There is nothing worse than trying to go out for a good night and ten million of those goons flooding every place that you remember being good and full of nice people. It's like a cane toad plague.

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