Without the "born in East LA ....

[Scott9945]

i don't disagree taylor landed more punches thru most of the fight. but the punches were just all flash with nothing on them. that's the same tactic oscar tried to use with trinidad for the first 5 rounds before he put on his track shoes. what a coward.

but fights aren't scored on just "throwing" punches. it is clean, effective punching. taylors were meaningless. taylor was only prevented from being murdered.

let's see if this makes since? after the fight, one of the fighters walks off to dinner and the after party. the other fighter is beaten so badly he can hardly stand on his, his face is grotesquely swollen and he is taken to a nearby hospital for surgery from internal bleeding and spends 17 DAYS there. and you want to tell me he won on points?

Ok, first of all you don't score boxing matches on what happens after the fight. Almost everyone including the judges had Taylor ahead. Taylor wasn't prevented from being murdered in a fight with two seconds left. Your accounts of Taylor spending 17 days in the hospital are FALSE. It is also FALSE that Taylor had surgery for internal bleeding. He fought 5 months later in Nevada. Do you really think they would have licensed him that soon if he was in the hospital that long? You can sell that **** to someone more gullible.

[ANDROID_DOES]

east~

come on homey, put down the slider for a minute. we are not talking about oscar bitching up to sturm at the moment. this discussion is about chavez/taylor. when class is in session you are gonna have to pay attention and follow along. i can't have you holding back the rest of the students.

dude you are really going overboard and im starting to believe you are just bias towards fighters. I am as big as a chavez fan you will find and i myself will not say he won the pernell or first taylor fight. I dont know what fight you were watching sound on or off im watching the same fight. I watch fights with my eyes the last time i checked my ears cant see anything. I know what i saw and chavez was waay behind on the score cards. I give taylor alot of credit for going in there and soundly beating chavez that night. Taylor was the champion that night. It was unfortunate for him how it ended. I dont think it was a bad stoppage because if you cant respond after a ten count that means you our out and fight is over doesnt mean how much time is left. but taylor did outwork chavez by a comfortable margin. He was way ahead on the scorecards. And once again i am 100% mexican and a huge chavez/ chavez jr fan.

[KILLA RIGHT]

Oscar is by far the most overated fighter of our time.He showed he ain't a real mexican going out the way he did vs tito

[rebmogul]

Ok, first of all you don't score boxing matches on what happens after the fight. Almost everyone including the judges had Taylor ahead. Taylor wasn't prevented from being murdered in a fight with two seconds left. Your accounts of Taylor spending 17 days in the hospital are FALSE. It is also FALSE that Taylor had surgery for internal bleeding. He fought 5 months later in Nevada. Do you really think they would have licensed him that soon if he was in the hospital that long? You can sell that **** to someone more gullible.

scott~

who is almost everyone? lamelie and lederman, we all know how impartial they are. have you seen the fight? the hospital stay and bleeding are facts. look it up.....

[rebmogul]

Oscar is by far the most overated fighter of our time.He showed he ain't a real mexican going out the way he did vs tito

and money!

[ANDROID_DOES]

Oscar is by far the most overated fighter of our time.He showed he ain't a real mexican going out the way he did vs tito

that is just plain ******!

[Kc-hoodsta]

scott~

who is almost everyone? lamelie and lederman, we all know how impartial they are. have you seen the fight? the hospital stay and bleeding are facts. look it up.....

shows us the facts

and if u show us wikipedia **** i will LMAO

[rebmogul]

dude you are really going overboard and im starting to believe you are just bias towards fighters. I am as big as a chavez fan you will find and i myself will not say he won the pernell or first taylor fight. I dont know what fight you were watching sound on or off im watching the same fight. I watch fights with my eyes the last time i checked my ears cant see anything. I know what i saw and chavez was waay behind on the score cards. I give taylor alot of credit for going in there and soundly beating chavez that night. Taylor was the champion that night. It was unfortunate for him how it ended. I dont think it was a bad stoppage because if you cant respond after a ten count that means you our out and fight is over doesnt mean how much time is left. but taylor did outwork chavez by a comfortable margin. He was way ahead on the scorecards. And once again i am 100% mexican and a huge chavez/ chavez jr fan.

i don't think so. i just happen to disagree with you and scott about what I saw occur during the fight and i use what i believe are the facts to support my positions. why would that make me biased? isn't that what you do?

i was at the fight,the first and second, and i have it on tape. i saw taylor get his ass kicked, simple as that.

[rebmogul]

shows us the facts

and if u show us wikipedia **** i will LMAO

east~

you gonna have to do your own research and come to class prepared. you still living at moms?

[ANDROID_DOES]

i don't think so. i just happen to disagree with you and scott about what I saw occur during the fight and i use what i believe are the facts to support my positions. why would that make me biased? isn't that what you do?

i was at the fight,the first and second, and i have it on tape. i saw taylor get his ass kicked, simple as that.

you are one of the very very few that will say chavez won that fight, but it makes you feel better then go for it.