DAVID HAYE vs WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO who wins?

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  • oovavu
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    #51
    I like haye but he doesn't win this one, he can drop his right at cruiserweight to open ppl up and counterpunch with the uppercut but if he gets caught by a big puncher at heavyweight hes going to sleep, the thing is alot of his defensive lapses look to be pretty easy fixes, he just never seems to learn, but he'll have to if he's ever going to be a challenger at heavy.

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    • badnewsbrown
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      #52
      who ever lands 1st wins

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      • beez721
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        #53
        Originally posted by kswizzy99
        haye is a natural heavyweight. and has fought at hw before. infact he is 4-0(4 ko's) in heavyweight fights. he only fought in cruserweight cuz he new that the talent was far less and he could take over that division so he could make a name for himself inorder to quicken his rise in hw. whereas most would just fight bums in their division at the beginning of their career, haye took over a division at the beginning of his career. Other than mike tyson, I don't know of anyone who has taken over a division as quick. I know its an emotional sport and causes emotional reactions but sometimes you need to sit back, take a deep breath, and look at things from a logical perspective. It is one thing to think that wlad would beat haye, it is another to think haye is nowhere near wlad. Cuz he is. I'm not saying haye is better than wlad for sure but, I am saying he is better than all the fighters that wlad has faced including the ones wlad has lost to.
        hate to break it to you,,,but I doubt very much that haye is better then even a third of the top 15 heavies that wlad has destroyed. haye was the best and a very good cruiserweight but we have no idea how good a heavyweight he is. considering hes been stopped and hurt by cruisers doesnt bode well for him against hard hitting heavies. Ive never once seen a fighter absorb a punch better when moving from cruiser to heavyweight

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        • Mike Tyson77
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          #54
          I bet the people who voted Haye, are the same bunch that said Calvin Brock would beat Klitschko.

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          • Motofan
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            #55
            Wlad by KO.

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            • Jim Jeffries
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              #56
              Well Haye was stopped by a cruiserweight that didn't hit nearly as hard as Sanders or Brewster, so I think it's safe to say Wlad's chin is better or at least as good. Wlad wins hands down in the power department, and has a much better jab. Pretty competitive fight for about 5 or 6 rounds before Wlad stops him.

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              • -Swizzy-
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                #57
                Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
                I bet the people who voted Haye, are the same bunch that said Calvin Brock would beat Klitschko.
                oh and btw, I'm not a hater of wlad. I know he is the best hw as of now, but I still think, haye in about 3-4 hw fights, will be ready to beat wlad.

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                • -Swizzy-
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                  #58
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                  I wonder if ppl's opinions have changed since the Ibragimov fight.

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                  • beez721
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by kswizzy99
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                    I wonder if ppl's opinions have changed since the Ibragimov fight.
                    why the hell would they? the fight was boring but he dominated a defensive minded awkward southpaw with mostly one hand. if that fight shows anything,,,its that haye would have all kinds of trouble catching wlad with anything big. wlad stops haye within 6 rounds. I could see this going just like walds fight with castillo. the first right hand wlad lands haye is down hard

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                    • moofo
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by kswizzy99
                      haye is a natural heavyweight. and has fought at hw before. infact he is 4-0(4 ko's) in heavyweight fights. he only fought in cruserweight cuz he new that the talent was far less and he could take over that division so he could make a name for himself inorder to quicken his rise in hw. whereas most would just fight bums in their division at the beginning of their career, haye took over a division at the beginning of his career. Other than mike tyson, I don't know of anyone who has taken over a division as quick. I know its an emotional sport and causes emotional reactions but sometimes you need to sit back, take a deep breath, and look at things from a logical perspective. It is one thing to think that wlad would beat haye, it is another to think haye is nowhere near wlad. Cuz he is. I'm not saying haye is better than wlad for sure but, I am saying he is better than all the fighters that wlad has faced including the ones wlad has lost to.
                      The part in Red is complete and utter nonsense.
                      Haye has not had 4 fights at Heavyweight.
                      He has had ONE fight at Heavyweight against Tomasz Bonin.
                      He stopped him in one round.
                      Fraudley Harrison was the only other guy to beat Bonin and that lasted 9 rounds and Fraudley got a dubious stoppage win.
                      Haye weighed 217 for that fight as well.. Fraudley was 256lbs against Bonin and never really hurt him.
                      Holyfield weighed 205lbs in his first fight with Rid**** Bowe and only 217 when he beat him in the rematch.

                      The odds are against Haye vs Wlad but he does have the power to stop Wlad.
                      Whether that actually happens is somethhing else.

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