DAVID HAYE vs WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO who wins?

[BrooklynBomber]

A) you sohuld not even compare Holyfield to haye, they are two completely different fighters with a completely different set of skills and abilities, not even saying that a prime Holy is a better fighter then Haye
B) Even if you are gonna compare Holy to Haye, should I remind you how did Holy did against Lewis, the closest, stylewise, fighter to Wlad?

[mick66]

Come on people smell the coffee....
WAld is not a bad fighter..one good connection and ....goodnight..

[-Swizzy-]

A) you sohuld not even compare Holyfield to haye, they are two completely different fighters with a completely different set of skills and abilities, not even saying that a prime Holy is a better fighter then Haye
B) Even if you are gonna compare Holy to Haye, should I remind you how did Holy did against Lewis, the closest, stylewise, fighter to Wlad?

wow, this should be called 'taking out of context' forum. there is no way I am compairing holyfield as far as career success goes. I am comparing weight classes cuz ppl seem to think that guys going up and down in weight class makes a ginormous difference in how they fight. holyfield was 177lbs in some of his fights early on. He than became a heavyweight and was 230 in some of his fights. everytime I post a poll comparing fighters in different weight classes, ppl tend to think that the fighter will be significantly different in another weight class which I don't believe to be true in most cases. like mayweather fighting as a middleweight vs jones jr. ppl said the fact that mayweather would be at 160, he would lose automatically instead of comparing the fighting styles and skill. mayweather would change I agree, but not enough that it'll make him lose because of it. cuz he might be slower but, mentally he sees teh same speed that he did when he was a lightweight and he'll still be fighter than everyone at middleweight. get what I am trying to say?

[-Swizzy-]

last sentence in the last post: fighter=faster

[BrooklynBomber]

wow, this should be called 'taking out of context' forum. there is no way I am compairing holyfield as far as career success goes. I am comparing weight classes cuz ppl seem to think that guys going up and down in weight class makes a ginormous difference in how they fight. holyfield was 177lbs in some of his fights early on. He than became a heavyweight and was 230 in some of his fights. everytime I post a poll comparing fighters in different weight classes, ppl tend to think that the fighter will be significantly different in another weight class which I don't believe to be true in most cases. like mayweather fighting as a middleweight vs jones jr. ppl said the fact that mayweather would be at 160, he would lose automatically instead of comparing the fighting styles and skill. mayweather would change I agree, but not enough that it'll make him lose because of it. cuz he might be slower but, mentally he sees teh same speed that he did when he was a lightweight and he'll still be fighter than everyone at middleweight. get what I am trying to say?

I think you did not read my post carefully.

[PBDS]

I think if haye gains about 30lbs he would win. but I am not really sure. the only thing I am sure of is, this fight ends in a ko.

...Klitschko and bad K for creating such a ****** ****ing thread. Congratulations. And please make these polls public so I can call out every frickin green teef who thinks Haye has a chance.

[Pugilistic™]

klitscko by ko.

[Welter_Skelter]

wow, this should be called 'taking out of context' forum. there is no way I am compairing holyfield as far as career success goes. I am comparing weight classes cuz ppl seem to think that guys going up and down in weight class makes a ginormous difference in how they fight. holyfield was 177lbs in some of his fights early on. He than became a heavyweight and was 230 in some of his fights. everytime I post a poll comparing fighters in different weight classes, ppl tend to think that the fighter will be significantly different in another weight class which I don't believe to be true in most cases. like mayweather fighting as a middleweight vs jones jr. ppl said the fact that mayweather would be at 160, he would lose automatically instead of comparing the fighting styles and skill. mayweather would change I agree, but not enough that it'll make him lose because of it. cuz he might be slower but, mentally he sees teh same speed that he did when he was a lightweight and he'll still be fighter than everyone at middleweight. get what I am trying to say?

Dude.... Weight divisons exist for a reason... Hatton should stay at 140 for a reason.. manny Pacquiao is not Middle weight champ for a reason..

To suggest that a guy at 140 would be the same fighter at 175.. is just plain dumb...

[beez721]

wow, this should be called 'taking out of context' forum. there is no way I am compairing holyfield as far as career success goes. I am comparing weight classes cuz ppl seem to think that guys going up and down in weight class makes a ginormous difference in how they fight. holyfield was 177lbs in some of his fights early on. He than became a heavyweight and was 230 in some of his fights. everytime I post a poll comparing fighters in different weight classes, ppl tend to think that the fighter will be significantly different in another weight class which I don't believe to be true in most cases. like mayweather fighting as a middleweight vs jones jr. ppl said the fact that mayweather would be at 160, he would lose automatically instead of comparing the fighting styles and skill. mayweather would change I agree, but not enough that it'll make him lose because of it. cuz he might be slower but, mentally he sees teh same speed that he did when he was a lightweight and he'll still be fighter than everyone at middleweight. get what I am trying to say?

lol,,,holyfield never weighed anywhere near 230. he was 220 at his heaviest. the jump from cruiserweight to heavyweight is huge. only a small percentage of fighters have been succesfull. the difference in strength and power is big time. end of story

[duffgun]

lol,,,holyfield never weighed anywhere near 230. he was 220 at his heaviest. the jump from cruiserweight to heavyweight is huge. only a small percentage of fighters have been succesfull. the difference in strength and power is big time. end of story

holyfield prime at heavyweight was about 209lb. i don't know how haye will take a heavyweight punch in a few fight we will see. but in truth we wont know till they fight each other.