Is the Cotto plan to break Mayweather down???

[Addison]

Cotto would have to try and break Mayweather down wouldn't he?

Somehow I don't think Miguel could outbox Floyd.. Call me crazy.

Of course Cotto could be on a new confidence high based on his success with Mosley, and favor more outside work than might be good for him..

Look, pressure does work effectively against Mayweather. We don't want the Hatton situation to be misconstrued. Hatton was effective with his smothering, and Floyd didn't like it one bit. Ricky just wasn't big enough to really put it all to good use.

Miguel Cotto is big and strong enough to make things possibly more interesting with the use of intense pressure.

[MindBat]

If they fight that is. Everyone has tried this bullying type of strategy against Mayweather. It hasn't really worked or been smart because I believe one of Floyd's strenghts is fighting right in the pocket where you can't catch him with a long range punch.

Miguel is a bettering body puncher but, I don't think he'll be effective with it. This is because Floyd positioning is contorted in a way where you can not cleanly get to the body. One of Cotto's money punches is the left hook to the body. And Floyd knows it and will look to check hook him with the left hand as he comes in.

I think the "breaking him down" strategy won't work. Because Miguel is not as good as jumping on you as much as Hatton is.

To me for him to have a chance. He's gonna have to work completely behind his best asset the left jab.

Looks like you're predicting another KO for Floyd.

[pbftxrs316]

to be fair to cotto, he does box well, but he is too slow on his feet for floyd, and this will prove too bad fro him. hatton has much quicker footwork than cotto which is why he got to floyd more because if you watched floyd's feet he wasn't moving as fast as he can with hatton because hatton was swarming floyd, floyd fights at a steady pace but his footwork is too fast for cotto. cotto's footwork would have to be very fast to get his shots off at even attempting to hit floyd, cotto starts off slow and is very patient but he's fighting a fighter who dictates the pace of his fights, no matter who he's fighting, a brawler, a boxer, a pressure boxer, a pressure brawler, it doesn't matter. floyd has mastered dictating his fights whether he's offensive or defensive, which is why he's so accurate, because dictating a pace means having great timing, and floyd is the best at this in the welterweight division imo. cotto would have to fight damn near perfectly to have a chance at beating floyd. he has to be very versatile at his gameplan and be ready to make adjustments throughout the fight, because floyd is great at using his opponent's strength's against them, no matter who it is. cotto has more raw power than floyd, this we know, but he would have to throw more combos and take steam off of his punches, because no matter how good your stamina is, any fighter can punch him or herself out. he would have to doublw up on his jab, but would have to be at the right place to do this, and he has not shown that his footwork is fast enough to do this against floyd.

people need to realize that with as fast as shane is and as powerful as he is, his overall movment is nowhere near floyd's and has never been. floyd's body positioning is impecable which goes back to him mastering dictating the pace of fights, because he knows where to be mostly at all times, he's very sharp in this field. floyd could position his body to offset cotto at all times, which is why cotto would have to make floyd respect his power early and confuse him at the same time, but can he do this effectively, i mean, he's capable of it, but i doubt it though. i could be wrong, but i highly doubt it. speed kills and cotto has speed in his arsenal, but floyd knows how to use his speed better. which is why he can throw not too many punches but still win a fight. cotto's upperbody movment would have to be great also, because floyd's upperbody movment is amazing. people seem to forget this aspect of his game. floyd very fast upperbody movment, whether on the ropes or in the middle of the ring, he is very flexible, cotto would have to flexible enough but also fast enough to move from floyd who would attack cotto's body, maybe not as much as cotto would try to attack floyd's but he would go to his body a lot, because he's faster and he's more accurate.

cotto has a good jab imo, and he would have to incorporate it a lot into his arsenal but he would have to feint with it against a mover like floyd, and his balance would have to be great, along with hi sstamina, and he has great stamina, but floyd again, can offset his gameplan and make him fight a different fight. this is what floyd is great at, making opponents fight a different fight, more or less, and uncomfortable fight, and taking them completely away from their gameplan, by just turnin git up in any round, but methodically. his mindset is always a step ahaead of his opponents. floyd is a thing fighter which is what cotto would have to be, he would have to apply smart pressure, but also patient pressure but controlled pressure at the same time. he would have to be ready to take shots, whether potshots or combos from floyd and keep his guard up, because cotto keeps his guard up great, but exposes his body a lot, and against floyd, who is a much better punch placer than shane and judah to the body especially, he would have to position his body very well against floyd's attack to his body. he would have to be very strong to keep floyd from tying his arms up against the ropes, because floyd knows how to frustrate the **** out of his opponents doing this and they usually lose rounds this way, whether they were the aggressors or not, and they go for broke, and that's when floyd completely takes over, and gets in this zone of comfortness and completely takes over the fight, especially in the latter rounds, cotto will have to stay strong and poised in the latter rounds, because floyd is very strong in the later rounds, and his mind is as sharp if not sharper in the later rounds than in the earlier rounds.

cotto would have to do all of this imo to beat floyd, which i do not believe he could or would do, but he would give floyd competition, and of course he has a puncher's chance but could he take a beating from floyd with his chin? we'd have to see.

[Kobe Bryant]

Cotto would have to try and break Mayweather down wouldn't he?

Somehow I don't think Miguel could outbox Floyd.. Call me crazy.

Of course Cotto could be on a new confidence high based on his success with Mosley, and favor more outside work than might be good for him..

Look, pressure does work effectively against Mayweather. We don't want the Hatton situation to be misconstrued. Hatton was effective with his smothering, and Floyd didn't like it one bit. Ricky just wasn't big enough to really put it all to good use.

Miguel Cotto is big and strong enough to make things possibly more interesting with the use of intense pressure.

I don't think he'll be able to pressure as much as Hatton. Cotto doesn't have the fastest of feet. Plus he's a different type of pressure fighter. Put it like this, I would say Hatton presses and Cotto more often stalks you. Just a bit different between the two. Mayweather can fight in the pocket and just had to settle in. After a while he was purposely going into the corner with Hatton. I don't think the smothering bothered him that much becuase he adapted pretty quickly to it.

[pbftxrs316]

cotto would lose to floyd, period.

[-Antonio-]

Exactly....Oscar is ****in 5-11....with a longer reach than Cotto.

Idoits...Cotto aint jabbing ****......Floyd will turn him to a punching bag.

They said the same thing before the Mosely fight.

[-Antonio-]

For the people saying Cotto is too slow on his feet, what was Castillo?

Cotto wont beat Mayweather by outright pressuring him, there's just no way. It's too easy for Floyd to sit back and land counters. That's his comfort zone as much as it was Toney's. You have to be a boxer puncher. It has to be a plan with some sort of boxing involved.

[juanroldan]

Remmeber how Floyd said about two years ago Cotto wasn't ready to fight him yet, he was about two years from being ready.

Now that Cotto is so clearly ready, eager and hungry to destroy Floyd, isn't it a lil convenient how lil floyd is suddenly bored with boxing and wants to retire?

Doesn't it kinda seem FLoyd uses his phony "retirement" as a refuge and safe shelter from the confident eager beasts at 147 who are calling him out?

Oh no, it's probaly just a coincidence. Floyd is duh man!

[Mr. Ryan]

Well I'm sure it's not to jab and move if that's an option.

[juanroldan]

1 Floyd predicted Mosley would KO Cotto early and easily.

THis goes to show Floyd can not read or guage the intangible and obvious weaponry Miguel Cotto brings to the table.

2 Floyd also said Judah would KO Cotto early, or at least that's what Ellerbe said, and Ellerbe is incapable of thinking for himself so. Clearly Floyd don't knwo what he's up against with Cotto, henceforth, the fleeing for the safe havens of phony "retirement" to run and hide from the hard charging Cotto.