The Cotto crew

[oldgringo]

1)Floyd's opponents throughout his career were better than Cotto's
2)Floyd is better than Cotto
3) Floyd has beaten bigger threats and better opponents than Cotto at his initial weights of 130/135, in Corrales and Castillo.


This argument is senseless.

1 - True

2 - True right now

3 - False. Mayweather has never faced anybody with Cottos blend of size, speed and skill. Cotto is a bigger, scarier version of Castillo.

[PRboxingfan]

I thought that everyone knew that you DON'T LISTEN TO THOSE PEOPLE.

You have been here for years. Come on now....you're better than this Hans...

My point is that Cotto, whom along with Williams are the best at WW right now, are not yet big enough names to face off against Mayweather. Maybe if one of them clears out the division Floyd would make a comeback, but it would have to be Williams because Mayweather is too proud to fight an Arum fighter ever again.

[baya]

Time to play the advocate yet again:

If he fights and beats Cotto (like I feel he would), what are people going to say about Cotto? That he never fought anyone decent (Mosley was old, Zab had lost his last 2, who the **** is Quintana, etc) at WW so he never was a challenge to Floyd?

Please, if you read on here, about 50% of the people picked Oscar to beat him and about 35% of the people picked Ricky to beat him. Guess what? Floyd's still got his 0. There isn't anyone, short of Vernon Forrest, who would be less than a 2:1 dog to Mayweather, with good reason. There is no dominant name out there for him to face at 140, 147, or 154 now that he's disposed of Ricky.

simply, yes there is a dominant name, when you've beaten zab judah (honestly, what solidified kostya tzuyu?), mosley (2-0 vs the golden boy) and just a slew of former (jukko, bazan), present (malignaggi, torres) and potentially MORE future world strap holders - all with no defeats.

then my friend, you have a clear favorite out there for you to fight - who's proven himself MORE than a worthy entity.

[sonofisis]

1 - True

2 - True right now

3 - False. Mayweather has never faced anybody with Cottos blend of size, speed and skill. Cotto is a bigger, scarier version of Castillo.

At his former weights he has. People forget that he was an underdog against a monster in Corrales who was undefeated and knocking everyone out. Surely Mayweather was supposed to get knocked out. He would NOT be an underdog against Cotto. Castillo, the same thing at light weight. He's bigger than Castillo because he fights at 147. Mayweather was at 135 and Castillo at 135 is as scary as it gets.

[PRboxingfan]

1 - True

2 - True right now

3 - False. Mayweather has never faced anybody with Cottos blend of size, speed and skill. Cotto is a bigger, scarier version of Castillo.

If you ask any boxer who they'd rather face, today's Cotto or the Corrales before he fought Mayweather, 90% of the fighters out there would prefer to fight Cotto.

Chico was considered a monster. Kind of like Tyson before he lost to Buster.

[eric maldonado]

These are major problems for Cotto. If Floyd can counter Zab to perfection, he'll definitely make minx meat out of this easily hit Cotto. Mayweather's hand speed is right on par with Judah's in addition to that. The difference is barely recognizable.



Cotto would have gotten trashed by DLH imho on that night and any night before. I've seen nothing from Cotto that he did better than DLH that night.



Hatton is a good fighter who was ranked higher than Cotto before the Mosley win. At the end of the day, why does any of this matter when again..

1)Floyd's opponents throughout his career were better than Cotto's
2) Floyd has beaten bigger threats and better opponents than Cotto at his initial weights of 130/135, in Corrales and Castillo.
3)Floyd is better than Cotto



This argument is senseless.

thats not my argument it's yours you were making it seem like theres no way cotto could beat mayweather and you were the one that compared cotto to previous floyd opponents which makes no difference what so ever so i made some comparisons myself and in my oppinion oscar didn't do **** against mayweather

[oldgringo]

My point is that Cotto, whom along with Williams are the best at WW right now, are not yet big enough names to face off against Mayweather. Maybe if one of them clears out the division Floyd would make a comeback, but it would have to be Williams because Mayweather is too proud to fight an Arum fighter ever again.

You know, in a perfect world there wouldn't be any of that bull**** to even think about. We wouldn't have Stanley's running around here (non-specific) repeating this, "Floyd doesn't need these guys, get over it" garbage like they are related to him and they need to spread his message to the world.

****ing politics. Why can't we all just live in a world where people fight global warming, there is no war, and the best fighters in the world face off with each other until it is no longer safe for them to fight?

That's three dancing bears there.

[eric maldonado]

diego can't adjust to a fight like cotto does cotto said he never watches tapes of his opponents his uncle does

[eric maldonado]

for the record i do see floyd beating cotto i just don't think it's going to be that easy

[oldgringo]

At his former weights he has. People forget that he was an underdog against a monster in Corrales who was undefeated and knocking everyone out. Surely Mayweather was supposed to get knocked out. He would NOT be an underdog against Cotto. Castillo, the same thing at light weight. He's bigger than Castillo because he fights at 147. Mayweather was at 135 and Castillo at 135 is as scary as it gets.

If you ask any boxer who they'd rather face, today's Cotto or the Corrales before he fought Mayweather, 90% of the fighters out there would prefer to fight Cotto.

Chico was considered a monster. Kind of like Tyson before he lost to Buster.

Yes I was alive and I had been watching boxing for 10+ years at that point (somebody get me a ****ing trophy). I never thought that highly of Corrales at any point in his career, so that may be why my posts come off the way they do. I'm not questioning whether those were great wins by Floyd, I'm just stating my opinion that Cotto is a legitimate threat to beat Floyd, given everything we presently know about Floyd.

*On a side note*

In retrospect what did Corrales do as opposed to Cotto that made him so much more dangerous in your eyes? Or are you just speaking about the public consensus at the time? I know the general opinion was that Corrales was a monster puncher who was knocking these marks out, but Cotto has a pretty ruthless reputation himself.