The Cotto crew

[eric maldonado]

No he isn't. Cotto is a better boxer than Hatton imo, but that doesn't mean it would be a better fight or that Floyd isn't a better boxer and absolutely HAS to fight him, or else. I reiterate what I said else where.

Cotto's Jab is not better than Oscar's
His pressure isn't as intense as Hatton's
His size isn't as overwhelming as Baldomir'
His speed isn't anything like Zab's

Therefore, in my view, he doesn't have a great chance at beating Mayweather. On top of that, Floyd doesn't need him for ppv. There's nothing indicating that Floyd NEEDS to fight him to prove something unless he stayed fighting, and at welter weight.

floyd doesn't hit as hard as zab
floyd is not as aggresive as shane

[baya]

Well he's not and Cotto wouldn't accomplish that for him. Nobody would. No need to hold him to that standard. He'd have to do much more than beat a contender like Cotto. With that said, I definitely rank him among the top 20..

whole-heartedly disagree. if floyd were to take on and BEAT a) cotto b) williams and maybe another crazy ass farewell fight against pavlik @ 160 - then he'd be without peer, i believe he can do this. however, i'm wrong 50% of the time.

he holds himself to that standard dude, he's said he is the best, i mean, its either that or he's just saying **** to just say it.

he'd have to beat another elite boxer to crack top 20, eh, maybe spot 20.

[sonofisis]

floyd doesn't hit as hard as zab
floyd is not as aggresive as shane

He's faster than both (for a longer period), has better defense than both, works the ring better, counters better, has more of a varied arsenal, and is just all around better than both are when they faced Cotto and probably better than both have ever been.

whole-heartedly disagree. if floyd were to take on and BEAT a) cotto b) williams and maybe another crazy ass farewell fight against pavlik @ 160 - then he'd be without peer, i believe he can do this. however, i'm wrong 50% of the time.

he holds himself to that standard dude, he's said he is the best, i mean, its either that or he's just saying **** to just say it.

he'd have to beat another elite boxer to crack top 20, eh, maybe spot 20.

I already have him in the top 20, as well as one of the boxingscene writers (see front page).. To say that a fighter HAS to prove that he's the greatest of all time or he's not great or has a solid legacy, is ridiculous.

[eric maldonado]

floyds hands are not as fast as zabs and cotto is better than hatton baldomir and judah

[oldgringo]

floyds hands are not as fast as zabs and cotto is better than hatton baldomir and judah

stop

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thread ass

hole.

[sonofisis]

floyds hands are not as fast as zabs

Then why'd he beat Zab to the punch after the early rounds? Because he's faster overall, fast hands don't mean anything when you don't know how to use them. He's also more accurate.

and cotto is better than hatton baldomir and judah

He's not better than De La Hoya was on May 5th imo and before Floyd, him being better than Hatton was debatable (they were neck and neck, p4p)... How about this. Floyd is better than Cotto.

[eric maldonado]

Then why'd he beat Zab to the punch after the early rounds? Because he's faster overall, fast hands don't mean anything when you don't know how to use them. He's also more accurate.


He's not better than De La Hoya was on May 5th and before Floyd, him being better than Hatton was debatable (they were neck and neck, p4p)...

after the early rounds he started to pressure zab and force the fight more early in the fight he was tring to counter zab but he couldn't because of zabs hand speed floyd is quicker on his feet.yes cotto is better than delahoya on may 5th and cotto has always been better than hatton.hatton aint **** he's a mma fighter always has been he didn't get whack all of a sudden because he lost to floyd he has always been overrated

[PRboxingfan]

playing the role of devils advocate suits you better

thing is this - mayweather claims to be the best to have ever done it - rationally speaking we're not on about some barrera or morales here who've been through WARS - we're talking about a guy w/ cat-like reflex's who's been hit in the face about as many times as i've had been mistakenly overpaid on a payroll check. i'm just a berean holding homeboy to his word, prove yourself right, floyd.

this fight makes sense in every sense of the word.

Time to play the advocate yet again:

If he fights and beats Cotto (like I feel he would), what are people going to say about Cotto? That he never fought anyone decent (Mosley was old, Zab had lost his last 2, who the **** is Quintana, etc) at WW so he never was a challenge to Floyd?

Please, if you read on here, about 50% of the people picked Oscar to beat him and about 35% of the people picked Ricky to beat him. Guess what? Floyd's still got his 0. There isn't anyone, short of Vernon Forrest, who would be less than a 2:1 dog to Mayweather, with good reason. There is no dominant name out there for him to face at 140, 147, or 154 now that he's disposed of Ricky.

[oldgringo]

Time to play the advocate yet again:

If he fights and beats Cotto (like I feel he would), what are people going to say about Cotto? That he never fought anyone decent (Mosley was old, Zab had lost his last 2, who the **** is Quintana, etc) at WW so he never was a challenge to Floyd?

Please, if you read on here, about 50% of the people picked Oscar to beat him and about 35% of the people picked Ricky to beat him. Guess what? Floyd's still got his 0. There isn't anyone, short of Vernon Forrest, who would be less than a 2:1 dog to Mayweather, with good reason. There is no dominant name out there for him to face at 140, 147, or 154 now that he's disposed of Ricky.

I thought that everyone knew that you DON'T LISTEN TO THOSE PEOPLE.

You have been here for years. Come on now....you're better than this Hans...

[sonofisis]

after the early rounds he started to pressure zab and force the fight more early in the fight he was tring to counter zab but he couldn't because of zabs hand speed floyd is quicker on his feet.

These are major problems for Cotto. If Floyd can counter Zab to perfection, he'll definitely make minx meat out of the easily hit Cotto. Mayweather's hand speed is right on par with Judah's in addition to that. The difference is barely recognizable.

yes cotto is better than delahoya on may 5th and cotto has always been better than hatton.

Cotto would have gotten trashed by DLH imho on that night and any night before. I've seen nothing from Cotto that he did better than DLH that night.

hatton aint **** he's a mma fighter always has been he didn't get whack all of a sudden because he lost to floyd he has always been overrated

Hatton is a good fighter who was ranked higher than Cotto before the Mosley win. At the end of the day, why does any of this matter when again..

1)Floyd's opponents throughout his career were better than Cotto's
2) Floyd has beaten bigger threats and better opponents than Cotto at his initial weights of 130/135, in Corrales and Castillo.
3)Floyd is better than Cotto



This argument is senseless.