Hillarious .GIF of De La Hoya getting OWNED by Whitaker

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  • oldgringo
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    #51
    Originally posted by moy22487
    Jake Rodriguez, Juan Nazario and Diosbelys Hurtado are no
    Corrales, Gatti, Mitchell.

    they are more like Bruseles, N'Dou,
    I didn't say they were necessarily better fighters than Gatti, Corrales and Mitchell. I simply said that Mayweather hasn't knocked a guy out, as in down for the 10 count with punches, in awhile. Whitaker did it on several occasions.

    All of that being said, Rodriguez, Nazario and Hurtado were better, more accomplished fighters than were N'Dou and Bruseles. All three were previous or eventual title holders.

    Gatti and Mitchell were certainly better names, but neither were more dangerous to Floyd than Hurtado was to Whitaker when thinking about the respective time tables. Gatti and Mitchell were both shot fighters.

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    • FIGHTING_FLIP
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      #52
      insane defense..

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      • Sweet Pete
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        #53
        Originally posted by Black Jesus
        no hes not, he trains fighters and works in a gym
        Exactly, what is with people talking out of their ass on this site?

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        • PRboxingfan
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          #54
          If I remember correctly, Whitaker should've won that fight. I believe I had him ahead by two rounds, 7-5.

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          • Sweet Pete
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            #55
            Originally posted by RodBarker
            I dont see it , Pea only had 40% stoppage while Floyd has 80% , something doesnt add up and my guess is that Floyd is not the runner he is made out to be , they showed a couple of Peas fights here the other night Cardona , McGirt and Hurtado , and in all three Pea was on the backfoot the whole fight , boxed brilliantly but he wasnt standing in front of them thats for sure ,, Im not saying one is better than the other both are great boxers , I just find it ironic that some guys will wrap Pea and then bag Floyd .
            It has to do with 3/4 of Floyd's fights being at 130 punds, where he was a beast, and most people just assuming Floyd always fought like he does now.

            If you're gonna tell me you saw the Hurtdao fight and then lie and say he boxed brilliantly off the backfoot, then we shouldn't be having this conversation. Hurtado was the one moving and throwing shots, while Pernell was the one pressuring. This was not a prime Pea in this fight, and he was facing a hard style matchup, a long, lean, mobile guy with quick, stinging punches, while Pea himself had deteriorated. But he finally did get him when it seemed like he was going to lose, KO'ing him brutally, and coming back from adversity as only the true greats do.

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            • Sweet Pete
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              #56
              Originally posted by kayjay
              I'm being hyperbolic again. It's a result of the fact that Oscar won that fight by about six points, and suddenly ten years later Mayweather fans root through for this stuff and mistake that clowning for fighting. Yeah his instincts were great, but you only 'own' a fighter by punching him. To me Oscar did better than Pernell in that clip.
              Oscar won by about 6 points? We're talking how the fight really went down, not how the judges scored it, as pretty much everyone who watched it knows it was nothing like that.

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              • niceguy45
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                #57
                Originally posted by kayjay
                I'm being hyperbolic again. It's a result of the fact that Oscar won that fight by about six points, and suddenly ten years later Mayweather fans root through for this stuff and mistake that clowning for fighting. Yeah his instincts were great, but you only 'own' a fighter by punching him. To me Oscar did better than Pernell in that clip.
                dlh did better he was the busier fighter of the two, like i said whitaker's flexes are sick

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                • Sweet Pete
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by ferocity
                  See the sig and look what Chavez did to many fighters while standing right in front of them.


                  Whitiker clowned way to much in this fight instead of trying win. Anyone notice Whitiker fought and came forward on Trinidad, but didn't do the same with Delahoya..
                  It's because he no longer had any of those abilities when he fought Trinidad, he was an old crackhead who was way past it, shot to hell really, relying on his heart to try and win, against a bigger, stronger, power puncher in his prime. In his prime(which he also wasn't in the DLH fight) he would've clearly beaten both if you ask me.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Sweet Pete
                    It has to do with 3/4 of Floyd's fights being at 130 punds, where he was a beast, and most people just assuming Floyd always fought like he does now.

                    If you're gonna tell me you saw the Hurtdao fight and then lie and say he boxed brilliantly off the backfoot, then we shouldn't be having this conversation. Hurtado was the one moving and throwing shots, while Pernell was the one pressuring. This was not a prime Pea in this fight, and he was facing a hard style matchup, a long, lean, mobile guy with quick, stinging punches, while Pea himself had deteriorated. But he finally did get him when it seemed like he was going to lose, KO'ing him brutally, and coming back from adversity as only the true greats do.
                    I got to admit the Hurtado fight was on last and I fell asleep ( 3 am ) and only seen about 3-4 rnds ,, the Cardona fight Pea was like Floyd vs Baldy , Im not trying to say Floyd is a ****er at this weight but he does have enough to put Hatton down , more from sharpness and speed than power , Im not trying to pump Floyd at Peas expense , I really like both .

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by RodBarker
                      I got to admit the Hurtado fight was on last and I fell asleep ( 3 am ) and only seen about 3-4 rnds ,, the Cardona fight Pea was like Floyd vs Baldy , Im not trying to say Floyd is a ****er at this weight but he does have enough to put Hatton down , more from sharpness and speed than power , Im not trying to pump Floyd at Peas expense , I really like both .
                      The difference between Pea/Cardona and Floyd/Baldomir is that Pea was constantly throwing and landing and making him miss effortlessly, while not making it a boring fight. Watch the two, Whitaker is easily better to watch, and lands WAY more punches than Floyd did on Baldomir.

                      You're gonna tell me Floyd looked like this? Pea is so much more fluid and offensive, even if he is off the backfoot, he doesn't potshot and move, he constantly throws a jab and makes Cardona look ****** while landing his own shots. Both were clinics, but this was a lot more impressive and fun to watch. (not saying Floyd can't be fun to watch in a clinic, like against Gatti or Corrales, but at higher weights he has not been as exciting)



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