MayWeather, Calderon & Guzman

[MaFu MoFo]

anyway, cotto is coming off an impressive victory over judah, the same judah floyd beat, just cotto fought sosa, the same sosa, floyd beat, just he fought corley, the same corley floyd beat and floyd dominated them all, and cotto knocked them out, so all of a sudden, because cotto knocked out what you people have labelled "bums" when talking about floyd, he's the **** now, seeing how he knocked out quitana who was undefeated also, and the supposed favorite to win, when i seen otherwise from the hate. cotto was to relentless a fighter for carlos and carlos was a decent boxer at best. ..

Dude, I never said Judah, Corley, Sosa were bums. Than again, Carlos Baldomir is a Bum with Acromegaly. The fact remains like this... Cotto has looked more impressive than Floyd when you compare those fights. I really can't tell you how good Quintana is as I had only seen like 3-4 of his fights. The fact remains that Quintana was an UNDEFEATED CHAMP when Cotto destroyed him with that devastating left hook. (Baldomir was a bum with a belt) That hook might as well beat anyone that night. I don't think there is a fighter out there that would had assimilated that punch and stand up to keep on fighting. That left hook Cotto connected to KO QUintana is a ****ing classic. So to Quintana's credit, how can I put that devastating punch agaisnt him. Quintana needs to keep up fighting. Face another worthy challenge in order for us to truely evaluate how to rank him.

so now, cotto is the man for floyd, when a couple of months agao, shane was. hmmmmmm... very funny if you ask me, or don't ask me, but i'll let you people know, that this is very funny. it goes to show you how much sense you posters have when you make such claims. you put your your little feet in your big mouths and contradict the living **** out of yourselves. cotto defeats in a close fight an over the hill shane mosley(all of a sudden, over the hill), who really fought hard and gave cotto trouble, but now shane's over the hill, but this is the same shane that you people have claimed floyd's best fight and greatest challenge, and now shane's title goes to cotto, because he beat shane, and seeing how floyd beat oscar, a harder puncher imo than shane is, yet, over the top to you ass clowns, the same ass clowns who predicted oscar was going to knock floyd the **** out,(you know it's funny, you people call floyd a coward because he trash talks and make claims that he is going to knock his opponents out, and he doesn't, so you call him names, but don't call yourself names, when you basically trash talk over a computer, calling him names that he'll never read most likely, and claiming so and so would knock him out, but when it doesn't happen, you don't call yourselves names. why not guys? you do the same thing you criticize him for, and you say his name so much, it really makes me wonder about your boxing knowledge, because i've read countless amounts of threads/posts that haven't been composed of nothing more than insults). so, floyd beats an over the hill oscar who had the chance to fight floyd just like gatti fought floyd, and his ass handed to him, and would have gotten his ass handed to him whether he was in his prime or not, his handspeed would have been too much for gatti at any weight. floyd's in the gym all year round mostly, so he's always in shape. man, if only he didn't have trouble with his hands, imo, he would have way more tko's and ko's than he does now, and you little punks better be thankful he has brittle hands, becasue if he didn't, your favorite fighters would have been dominated even more and embarrassed way more...

[B]Tell this to all the haters, don't include me. Plus, we already discuss this.[/B]

[MaFu MoFo]

so, i respect your opinion on floyd to some degree, but i have to admit, using different words to cover up for the words you've used in the past like coward and ducker doesn't fool me. to me, it's all the same bull**** to insult the man's legacy in the sport, and it's old and useless. but, you post what you post, you do what you want, but floyd is going to reign supreme whether you like it or not, you will have to deal with it.

on that note, floyd is goin gto beat ricky hatton badly, with all due respect to hatton, he is a classy man, and i have no bad taste in my mouth for hatton, he appears to be a great man and a loving father, and kudos for him, but this is a fight, and i call fights like i see them, and ricky is training hard for this fight, and he looks to be in great shape, but with all that training, he will not, and read this very carefully ladies gents on boxingscene.com/forums, HE WILL NOT OUT-THINK FLOYD MAYWEATHER JUNIOR, AND HE WILL BE DOMINATED, I GUARANTEE YOU ALL.

Dude, MayWeather got a real chance to leave a REAL LEGACY. As I posted on "MayWeather's Magic Number is 3". Then again, he must take those 3 fights and win them all. If he does, I believe he will be there in the top 10 of all time and arguably top 5.

[MaFu MoFo]

yes, i agree they would, but my point was that people on this forum switch the fighter that would give floyd the most trouble damn near every month, every month there's somebody new. floyd went for de la hoya because of the money and because of how big he became afterwards. floyd's not dumb, we know why he fought oscar, but my thing is, is that he called out oscar damn near his whole career, and i truly believe that oscar ducked floyd in 2005 as well as mosley, and i may be wrong, but floyd was adament about fighting those two, i'm sure for the money, but also because he wanted them while they were still considered threats. floyd called these guys out in their primes. mosley showed me also against cotto that he had a lot left, but a win over mosley instead of baldomir would have been better than after baldomir because shane had just beaten vargas so a fight between he and floyd would have been huge seeing how floyd beat judah earlier in the year. a fight with shane after carlos would have been good imo for floyd but not as hot as in 2006. so, floyd fought a determined oscar de la hoya for his biggest purse ever. i still want floyd to fight shane. and i really want floyd to fight cotto also. and of course i want him to fight williams and cintron and i feel he will fight these guys eventually, we'll have to wait and see though.

I understand where you coming from, but that's boxing and we can't rewrite past history. The fact is that every month we get to see a boxer becoming better and better and suddenly becomes a real threat. In this case Floyd would had beaten Cotto a couple yeras ago, NOW IS A DIFFERENT STORY.

[MaFu MoFo]

i see your point with oscar making money off of other fighters and losses, but i do also believe that he came there to beat floyd, he just fell short.

I totally respect your point of view, but still got doubts and have reserves on that "soap opera" before the fight. Father helping the son's opponent is so ****ing gay and helped to create a drama fit for women who spend their days watching local TV. It worked so good, HBO profitted well from the ****** 24/7 show.

[Boxingwizard]

I'm not a big fan of Mayweather, and this might sound like I'm nitpicking Mayweather's style, but he was a beast back then before he broke his hand. Now he's just too defensive and fights sloppy, and this was evident in his fight against Jesus Chavez. Jesus Chavez was often pummeling Mayweather with shots (although Mayweather blocked most of him), but he rarely countered and when did it was in spurts. If you want to watch Mayweather at his most skilled, you need to watch the fight against Tony Pep. He would throw double-left hooks and than a straight right and basically counter everything Tony Pep threw. And Mayweather countered a lot back then too, he would counter every punch a fighter throws (see Genaro Hernandez fight) and throw little flurries when the opponents were against the ropes. All this changed when Mayweather broke his hand.

[MaFu MoFo]

I'm not a big fan of Mayweather, and this might sound like I'm nitpicking Mayweather's style, but he was a beast back then before he broke his hand. Now he's just too defensive and fights sloppy, and this was evident in his fight against Jesus Chavez. Jesus Chavez was often pummeling Mayweather with shots (although Mayweather blocked most of him), but he rarely countered and when did it was in spurts. If you want to watch Mayweather at his most skilled, you need to watch the fight against Tony Pep. Mayweather countered a lot back then too, he would counter every punch a fighter threw (see Genaro Hernandez fight) and threw little flurries when the opponents were against the ropes. All this changed when Mayweather broke his hand.

I guess Cintron will fight baldomir next... lol. Just kidding, you might be right, but i think the injury is not the reason. Agaisnt Hatton, I expect the good old Pretty boy Floyd. Any sign of running, and he deserves to lose. I don't think Hatton is a threat, but you never know... I would love to see a KO eighter way. I am going to be laughing my ass off if I get to see one of them kissing the canvas good nite.

[PRboxingfan]

I basicly respect your opinion and lack of hate on your posts. I just wanted Guzman to KO Soto so bad... In another issue, if MayWeather publicly refuses to fight Cotto using the Arum issua as an excuse, will you still respect him and have high regards on him???

He will never come out and say it like that but we all know why he's doing it.

I still respect Ricky Hatton and he came out and flat-out said he'd NEVER fight Junior Witter because he hates him so much and he knows a fight with him (Hatton) would be a big payday for Junior. He went as far as to say that he'd rather give up a belt than fight him so that Junior can't make money off of him. Hatton is honest like that, but I don't respect him any less for not fighting Witter.

[MaYaN_SuN]

Those types of fighters are just annoying to watch.

I mean Guzman traded shots with Soto in round 1, Soto's mouth got wet...and after that Guzman never took that chance again the whole night. He'd throw his fastest and get out. Imagine training for months for a big fight, then you don't even fight lol. That **** has got to test your nerves, wich is why when you face fighters who utilize speed and running, you don't want to chase them. You just fall right into their gameplan that way.

You have to mimic them, land your shots and then YOU move...make the runner feel like he has to come to you. Dont chase him. Time him, get a feel when he's coming in. Don't try to land power shots when he comes in briefly either, just try to get leather on his face and get out. Make him feel like he has to stop and actually fight more, every time he comes in. Pace him, do that over and over, just touch him lightly, no power shots, then get out. Make him take some more chances, then when the timing is right...lol lean on that ****, and force feed him a rock.




But it's not like what they're doing is illegal, its just lame. But thats just a aspect of Boxing. But trainers and fighters should have figured out how to handle these types of fighters. Otherwise the sport ends up with lame champions lol.

[MaFu MoFo]

Those types of fighters are just annoying to watch.

I mean Guzman traded shots with Soto in round 1, Soto's mouth got wet...and after that Guzman never took that chance again the whole night. He'd throw his fastest and get out. Imagine training for months for a big fight, then you don't even fight lol. That **** has got to test your nerves, wich is why when you face fighters who utilize speed and running, you don't want to chase them. You just fall right into their gameplan that way.

You have to mimic them, land your shots and then YOU move...make the runner feel like he has to come to you. Dont chase him. Time him, get a feel when he's coming in. Don't try to land power shots when he comes in briefly either, just try to get leather on his face and get out. Make him feel like he has to stop and actually fight more, every time he comes in. Pace him, do that over and over, just touch him lightly, no power shots, then get out. Make him take some more chances, then when the timing is right...lol lean on that ****, and force feed him a rock..

I remember watching the Trinidad-Wright fight. I kept saying, why is TiTo wasting so much time hitting Winky's gloves??? I pent the night screaming; "Let the MoFo come to you!!!" ... LOL!

[MaYaN_SuN]

lol And you see this happen over and over, it makes you wanna reach in your TV and strangle your fighter.