Can the heavyweight division be great again

[WLAD OWNS]

you cant seriously suggest the shots wlad took from sanders were anything like that of rahman and McCall??? both of those shots would of ko'd the majority of heavys. and for your information lewis did have the heart to get up from the mcall knockdown so do some homework. lewis would knock wlad out inside 3 rounds and it would be a brutal. lewis chin is far greater to wlads. i respect wlad a lot i think he's a good fighter but he has done nothing to suggest he could live with lewis

I gotta get some sleep, I am tired of your biased Limey bull****.

New prime Wlad vs Prime Lewis is a pickem fight, but I think the new Wlad is better and he would KO/TKO Lewis.

[-CANE-]

Lennox Lewis was a great fighter and I have a lot of respect for him, but all Wlad would need is one hard right hand on the chin and Lewis would be KO'd.

Wlad has never been KO'd, only TKO'd, he always has the heart to get up and beat the count, unlike Lewis who didn't have the heart to beat the count against McCall and Rahman.

First of all they were hit by different punchers and McCall and Rahman hit harder than Ross Purity,Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders.

Secondly Lewis avenged both defeats Wlad has avenged 1 of the 3.

Thirdly you need to get your facts straight Lewis beat the count against McCall and was up at the count of 6. But for the only time ever in heavyweight history the champ was not given the chance to continue after being floored. Holmes was in worse shape against Shavers yet was allowed to continue and eventually won. Rahman ko'd him good and proper yeah but Lewis was out of shape and complacent which is his fault but he proved everything in the rematch.

Against really good or great fighters he took there best punches because he was prepared and up for the fight. He took great punches off of Ruddock,Briggs,Mercer,Morrison,Tyson,Tua,Grant,Hol yfield and even bombs by Vitali and many others yet they couldn't shake him. Lewis had a great chin, not as great as many others but certainly good enough to stand up to either Klitchko and better skills as well.

[Randall_Hopkirk]

I love it when people disregard lewis because he was KO by one punch. Does it make Wlad's position any better knowing he hit the canvas four times before being stopped? No, minor details my Klit loving *******s. When your best victories are over Chris Byrd and Brewster, your quest for greatness seems far off. Beating Ibragimov won't convince people either.

[Randall_Hopkirk]

Lennox Lewis was a great fighter and I have a lot of respect for him, but all Wlad would need is one hard right hand on the chin and Lewis would be KO'd.

Wlad has never been KO'd, only TKO'd, he always has the heart to get up and beat the count, unlike Lewis who didn't have the heart to beat the count against McCall and Rahman.

Did you see the right hands Vitali landed on an old and out of shape Lewis? i did, and although he felt the effects he didn't look like going down. I can see you're a dumb ass as you disregard a fighter based on a KO rather than a few TKO's to journeymen.

[Jim Jeffries]

I love it when people disregard lewis because he was KO by one punch. Does it make Wlad's position any better knowing he hit the canvas four times before being stopped? No, minor details my Klit loving *******s. When your best victories are over Chris Byrd and Brewster, your quest for greatness becomes even longer. Beating Ibragimov won't convince people either.

Yup, better find a washed up Tyson or Holyfield to cement your legacy.

[DURAN_IS_GOD]

First of all they were hit by different punchers and McCall and Rahman hit harder than Ross Purity,Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders.

Secondly Lewis avenged both defeats Wlad has avenged 1 of the 3.

Thirdly you need to get your facts straight Lewis beat the count against McCall and was up at the count of 6. But for the only time ever in heavyweight history the champ was not given the chance to continue after being floored. Holmes was in worse shape against Shavers yet was allowed to continue and eventually won. Rahman ko'd him good and proper yeah but Lewis was out of shape and complacent which is his fault but he proved everything in the rematch.

Against really good or great fighters he took there best punches because he was prepared and up for the fight. He took great punches off of Ruddock,Briggs,Mercer,Morrison,Tyson,Tua,Grant,Hol yfield and even bombs by Vitali and many others yet they couldn't shake him. Lewis had a great chin, not as great as many others but certainly good enough to stand up to either Klitchko and better skills as well.

fantastic post couldn't of put it any better myself. only in time will lewis be truly appreciated

[Jim Jeffries]

do you understand boxing?? lewis was not ko'd by mcall it was a tko and the fight arguably should of continued. of course sanders had power but the shot that rahman hit lewis with was brutal and would of ko'd the majority of heavys imo, most definitely wlad.

Lewis would have gotten KO'd and hurt bad if it was allowed to continue. The thing is, Lewis was not nearly as good in that first McCall fight as he was later in his career, just as Wlad has gotten better with the same trainer.

[-CANE-]

Lewis would have gotten KO'd and hurt bad if it was allowed to continue. The thing is, Lewis was not nearly as good in that first McCall fight as he was later in his career, just as Wlad has gotten better with the same trainer.

Bull**** you're making assumptions, Lewis had good recuperative powers. When hit with big shots by other heavies and visibly you could see it hurt he ****** it up and recovered.

Ask yourself this how many people would have thought Holmes would have beat Shavers had the fight got stopped and he was in far worse shape than Lewis against McCall.

I'm not saying Lewis would have won you just don't know but equally you can't say for certain he was gonna get beat. He deserved the chance to at least continue to see what unfolded.

[DURAN_IS_GOD]

Lewis would have gotten KO'd and hurt bad if it was allowed to continue. The thing is, Lewis was not nearly as good in that first McCall fight as he was later in his career, just as Wlad has gotten better with the same trainer.

well wether he would of been stopped or "hurt bad" is hearsay.... the fact is that lewis should of been allowed to continue after beating the count and not being ko'd as so many people seem to state

[Jim Jeffries]

well wether he would of been stopped or "hurt bad" is hearsay.... the fact is that lewis should of been allowed to continue after beating the count and not being ko'd as so many people seem to state

I think you mean speculation, hearsay is something altogether different. With all of the people that have been killed in the ring, even by guys like Robinson and Griffith, refs have to make a judgement call on whether to let fights continue. In all of Wlad's TKOs he has beat the count, what's the difference?