Can the heavyweight division be great again

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  • DURAN_IS_GOD
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    #21
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    Originally posted by DURAN_IS_GOD
    you are a fool. lewis is third best.... not of his generation but of ALL TIME. he sits nicely behind ali and louis. QUOTE]

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    whats your problem? lewis is an olympic gold medalist, a three time world heavyweight champion, he beat every man he ever faced. he dominated the division and had bowe throw away his title rather than face him. he has a great jab, right hand and a viscious uppercut along with a good chin.there are few fighters in history who can live with a prime lewis. FACT

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    • -CANE-
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      #22
      Originally posted by kayjay
      You're a revisionist. Lewis was never that good, he was a latecomer and the third best of his generation. Wlad beats him every time.
      What are you smoking? He was the best of his generation he beat both Tyson and Holyfield and everyone else he ever faced.

      Don't give me that bull**** about Tyson and Holyfield being past it either.
      He made more defenses than both of them aswell against everyone there was to fight. Even at the end of his career and out of shape he beat THE GREAT VITALI KLITCHKO.

      Even when not at his best he always found a win to win except on 2 occasions but he beat them in rematches something Tyson never did so don't go saying Tyson was better because fact he wasn't.

      Also it don't make no difference to me that a brit or a yank isn't champ what I'm saying is until Wlad beats great or really good fighters as Lewis did then he ain't great and the division isn't great either. Maybe in 5 years it will be and he proves me wrong for the sake of the sport I hope he does as I have nothing against him.

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      • Jim Jeffries
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        #23
        Originally posted by Kid Achilles
        What we need is for our heavyweights to fight more than twice a year.
        Seems to work just fine for Mayweather.

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          #24
          Originally posted by DURAN_IS_GOD
          you are a fool. lewis is third best.... not of his generation but of ALL TIME. he sits nicely behind ali and louis. lennox would jump on the weak chinned wlad and you could expect a re-run of michael grant. lewis would bust up vitali and his right hands and uppercut would force a mid round stoppage. to seriously suggest lewis was never that good is embarrassing and you lose all credibility.
          Lennox Lewis was a great fighter and I have a lot of respect for him, but all Wlad would need is one hard right hand on the chin and Lewis would be KO'd.

          Wlad has never been KO'd, only TKO'd, he always has the heart to get up and beat the count, unlike Lewis who didn't have the heart to beat the count against McCall and Rahman.

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          • DURAN_IS_GOD
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            #25
            Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
            Lennox Lewis was a great fighter and I have a lot of respect for him, but all Wlad would need is one hard right hand on the chin and Lewis would be KO'd.

            Wlad has never been KO'd, only TKO'd, he always has the heart to get up and beat the count, unlike Lewis who didn't have the heart to beat the count against McCall and Rahman.
            you cant seriously suggest the shots wlad took from sanders were anything like that of rahman and McCall??? both of those shots would of ko'd the majority of heavys. and for your information lewis did have the heart to get up from the mcall knockdown so do some homework. lewis would knock wlad out inside 3 rounds and it would be a brutal. lewis chin is far greater to wlads. i respect wlad a lot i think he's a good fighter but he has done nothing to suggest he could live with lewis

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              #26
              Originally posted by kayjay
              I'm not satisfied that he was better than Holy and Tyson. He fought them both at the end. He was better past 35 than they were, but he wasn't better.
              To assume Lewis would have dominated a peak Tyson based on their 2002 fight is naive, I believe that; but to suggest that he wasn't as good as 'vander and Mike, forgetting he dominated both fighters is askew. You can only go by results, and Lewis reigned supreme against two of the best fighters since Larry Holmes.

              Klitschko's a drop in the ocean when it comes to great HW's, he might sc**** into the top 50 of all time, even that I doubt.

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              • col Blake
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                #27
                Lewis would lift the big ruskie out of his boots

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                • Jim Jeffries
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by DURAN_IS_GOD
                  you cant seriously suggest the shots wlad took from sanders were anything like that of rahman and McCall??? both of those shots would of ko'd the majority of heavys. and for your information lewis did have the heart to get up from the mcall knockdown so do some homework. lewis would knock wlad out inside 3 rounds and it would be a brutal. lewis chin is far greater to wlads. i respect wlad a lot i think he's a good fighter but he has done nothing to suggest he could live with lewis
                  Hold on there buddy, Sanders had 18 1st round KOs and 7 2nd round KOs, don't act like he didn't have any power. McCall was a club fighter and he KOd Lewis in 2, WITH ONE PUNCH.

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                  • DURAN_IS_GOD
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by gavinz1970
                    Hold on there buddy, Sanders had 18 1st round KOs and 7 2nd round KOs, don't act like he didn't have any power. McCall was a club fighter and he KOd Lewis in 2, WITH ONE PUNCH.
                    do you understand boxing?? lewis was not ko'd by mcall it was a tko and the fight arguably should of continued. of course sanders had power but the shot that rahman hit lewis with was brutal and would of ko'd the majority of heavys imo, most definitely wlad.

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                    • col Blake
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                      #30
                      almost all heavyweights have the power to turn the lights out of their opponents, but Lewis had more power than most, very fast hands, a great jab, and avenged everyone who beat him

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