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  • kayjay
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    #61
    Originally posted by hurricane72
    He still made more defenses than Tyson and he beat a dangerous Ruddock, destroyed Golota who'd given Bowe a lot of trouble, destroyed a big unbeaten dangerous Grant, played with Tua and basically wiped out everyone there was to beat, Wlad will never achieve half what Lewis did and a prime Lewis would beat both Klitchkos.
    Nonsense. Wlad is a much better fighter than Lewis and should surpass his accomplishments by next year.

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    • beez721
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      #62
      Originally posted by hurricane72
      He still made more defenses than Tyson and he beat a dangerous Ruddock, destroyed Golota who'd given Bowe a lot of trouble, destroyed a big unbeaten dangerous Grant, played with Tua and basically wiped out everyone there was to beat, Wlad will never achieve half what Lewis did and a prime Lewis would beat both Klitchkos.
      claiming lewis "would" beat wlad and that wlad "wont" achieve half of what lewis did reeks of biasness. lewis had been knocked out and hurt by lesser punchers then wlad and wlad is just now in his prime which makes your definitive statements ridiculous. wlad very well could have knocked lewis cold. a focused wlad of today likely would have done the same to the above mentioned fighters. end of story

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        #63
        wlad has a ways to go to catch up with lewis, but i think wlad won't be that much farther down the hw list from lewis when all said and done.

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        • Azteca
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          #64
          Originally posted by kayjay
          Nonsense. Wlad is a much better fighter than Lewis and should surpass his accomplishments by next year.
          oh my god........

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            #65
            Originally posted by Azteca
            oh my god........
            I agree Aztec
            Kayjay has been eating to much lead paint

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              #66
              Originally posted by kayjay
              Nonsense. Wlad is a much better fighter than Lewis and should surpass his accomplishments by next year.
              this is a joke even if wlad becomes undisputed champion he will still need to defended it for at least 2-3 years against better quality opponents before being compared to someone like lewis.

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                #67
                Originally posted by beez721
                claiming lewis "would" beat wlad and that wlad "wont" achieve half of what lewis did reeks of biasness. lewis had been knocked out and hurt by lesser punchers then wlad and wlad is just now in his prime which makes your definitive statements ridiculous. wlad very well could have knocked lewis cold. a focused wlad of today likely would have done the same to the above mentioned fighters. end of story
                I'm entitled to my opinion and that is he would have beat Wlad. An old Lewis beat Vitali, and it's not biased to say I don't think he will achieve what Lewis did because there isn't the quality of fighters out there that Lewis fought and beat.

                It's you being biased saying Wlad would have destroyed the fighters that Lewis beat.

                Lewis might have been stopped by lesser punchers than Wlad but he weren't focused he also took punches from bigger hitters than Wlad when focused.

                He also avenged both his defeats, Wlad has avenged one of the three.
                And in my opinion McCall and Rahman hit harder than the big punching Ross Purity, Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders and Lewis hits harder than Wlad.

                If Wlad is a 3 time champ and unifies all the belts and makes 14 defenses and beats quality fighters like Tyson,Holyfield,Tua,Grant,Golota,Biggs,Tucker,Brun o,Mercer,Morrison,Mavrovic,Ruddock,Rahman,McCall and Klitchko then I'll hold my hands up and say yeah he is as good or better until then I won't.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by hurricane72
                  I'm entitled to my opinion and that is he would have beat Wlad. An old Lewis beat Vitali, and it's not biased to say I don't think he will achieve what Lewis did because there isn't the quality of fighters out there that Lewis fought and beat.

                  It's you being biased saying Wlad would have destroyed the fighters that Lewis beat.

                  Lewis might have been stopped by lesser punchers than Wlad but he weren't focused he also took punches from bigger hitters than Wlad when focused.

                  He also avenged both his defeats, Wlad has avenged one of the three.
                  And in my opinion McCall and Rahman hit harder than the big punching Ross Purity, Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders and Lewis hits harder than Wlad.

                  If Wlad is a 3 time champ and unifies all the belts and makes 14 defenses and beats quality fighters like Tyson,Holyfield,Tua,Grant,Golota,Biggs,Tucker,Brun o,Mercer,Morrison,Mavrovic,Ruddock,Rahman,McCall and Klitchko then I'll hold my hands up and say yeah he is as good or better until then I won't.
                  lol,,,,I forgot,,,a faded holyfield,,,shot tyson,,,,tua,,,grant,,golota,,biggs,,,tucker,,brun o,,ruddock,,rahman and morrison were such superb fighters to have beaten. lewis was a great fighter,,Ive always admired him but he could have been knocked out by wlad,,,just as wald could have been knocked out by lewis. to suggest otherwise is just ignorant

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by beez721
                    lol,,,,I forgot,,,a faded holyfield,,,shot tyson,,,,tua,,,grant,,golota,,biggs,,,tucker,,brun o,,ruddock,,rahman and morrison were such superb fighters to have beaten. lewis was a great fighter,,Ive always admired him but he could have been knocked out by wlad,,,just as wald could have been knocked out by lewis. to suggest otherwise is just ignorant
                    First of all the fighters I listed are better than what Wlad has beaten so far and I can't see anyone on the horizon that he can say that was a great fighter I beat.

                    Secondly you are the ignorant one, go back and tell me where I said it wasn't possible for Wlad to knock Lewis out. I said I thought Lewis would beat him which is my opinion, yeah Wlad does have the power to knock Lewis out but my bet is had Lewis fought him he would have been fully prepared not like against McCall and Rahman, the better the fighter the better Lewis fought and my opinion is Lewis would have won, but yes it's possible Wlad could win. But what I would add is if Wlad beat him I would put money on Lewis in a best of 3.

                    So try reading what I put next time and stop making ****** assumptions.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by kayjay
                      Nonsense. Wlad is a much better fighter than Lewis and should surpass his accomplishments by next year.
                      By beating Sultan Ibragimov?

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