The Ring: 20 Greatest Welterweights Of All-Time

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  • Verstyle
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    #51
    Originally posted by Sweet Pete
    Because you don't know the fighters or their careers doesn't mean we don't.
    Please show me more then 15 fights of each of those fighters.Please?

    I know The Ring has a big fight archive but I had no idea some of you guys did too. I'll be looking forward to seeing some of those fighters fights.

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    • -Antonio-
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      #52
      Why are boxing historians so damn biased for the older fighters? This is the only sport where the bias is that bad.

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      • Sweet Pete
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        #53
        Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7
        Please show me more then 15 fights of each of those fighters.Please?

        I know The Ring has a big fight archive but I had no idea some of you guys did too. I'll be looking forward to seeing some of those fighters fights.
        You want me to post on the coputer 15 fights apiece of about 20 different fighters? Well, considering I have a DVD collection and a lot of my fights come from boxing *******s as well, which is not like Youtube, I can't really do that.

        There is sufficient footage of every fighter listed, except Burley.

        You're missing the point of my post. I was inquiring as to what you meant in the first place. People base rankings on what you accomplished for the most part, and they were clearly off on a few things, such as has been mentioned, Duran over Trinidad at WW.

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          #54
          Originally posted by -Antonio-
          Why are boxing historians so damn biased for the older fighters? This is the only sport where the bias is that bad.
          Could be that older fighters fought for other reasons other than to preserve their record and the most money possible. Also, atheletes have gotten bigger and stronger, which has more effect in football, basketball, etc, not so much in Boxing, besides HW of course.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Sweet Pete
            You want me to post on the coputer 15 fights apiece of about 20 different fighters? Well, considering I have a DVD collection and a lot of my fights come from boxing *******s as well, which is not like Youtube, I can't really do that.

            There is sufficient footage of every fighter listed, except Burley.

            You're missing the point of my post. I was inquiring as to what you meant in the first place. People base rankings on what you accomplished for the most part, and they were clearly off on a few things, such as has been mentioned, Duran over Trinidad at WW.
            My post was I think most ppl go searching for the known names and for the ones that are no names that are rarely talked about to them they shouldnt be on there,or on there so high.

            Im sure if we were in their era it would make alot more sense because we would be talking about them alot more as we do the fighters from the 70s up.

            My point for saying give me 15 fights of each fighter is because you made it seem as if you've seen those guys I named alot alot. So if I obviously havnt seen what you have I wanted to. Simple as that.

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              #56
              Originally posted by gavinz1970
              Could be that older fighters fought for other reasons other than to preserve their record and the most money possible. Also, atheletes have gotten bigger and stronger, which has more effect in football, basketball, etc, not so much in Boxing, besides HW of course.
              Good post.

              Also, what is meant by "older fighters"? Most of boxing's long history has taken place in the past, so if you were to assume most of the best fought in the small time frame you've been around, that would be pretty damn biased, not what they do.

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                #57
                Originally posted by gavinz1970
                Could be that older fighters fought for other reasons other than to preserve their record and the most money possible. Also, atheletes have gotten bigger and stronger, which has more effect in football, basketball, etc, not so much in Boxing, besides HW of course.
                I disagree. That's why fighters used to fight 100-200 times.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by -Antonio-
                  Why are boxing historians so damn biased for the older fighters? This is the only sport where the bias is that bad.
                  I totally agree, I'm pretty damn sick of it myself.

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                  • Wiley Hyena
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                    #59
                    Pretty fair list, I'd say. If Mayweather would have been in the top twenty, then I'd immediately have set fire to it. I guess somebody who knows something well enough to write for The Ring decided to give an honest appraisel.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by -Antonio-
                      Why are boxing historians so damn biased for the older fighters? This is the only sport where the bias is that bad.
                      I am always saying this. Historians and fans GROSSELY overrate the older fighters.

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