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  • squealpiggy
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    #31
    Originally posted by shawn1262231
    Who has Kessler beaten? He won his belts off of Manny Siaca who was 18-4 going in to their bout and the shockingly mediocre Markus Beyer. He's good but he's being severely overrated. Typical European style he has no inside fighting at all that's why when Calzaghe swarmed him and got inside he panicked and didn't know what to do. Everybody he beat I think Taylor and Pavlik could beat. Imagine Pavlik in the ring with Beyer.
    The question for me is who has Kelly Pavlik beaten? If you look at Kessler's resume he's basically rounded out the Super Middleweight top ten with the exception of Lacy and Calzaghe. Pavlik has beaten a hyped and weight-drained Edison Miranda and a weak Middleweight champ in Taylor. And he struggled with that last one and looked close to being out on his feet.

    It was a good win for a good fighter but Kessler has faced on balance the more formidable opposition. Librado Andrade is better than anyone Pavlik has faced in my opinion.

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      #32
      Originally posted by squealpiggy
      The question for me is who has Kelly Pavlik beaten? If you look at Kessler's resume he's basically rounded out the Super Middleweight top ten with the exception of Lacy and Calzaghe. Pavlik has beaten a hyped and weight-drained Edison Miranda and a weak Middleweight champ in Taylor. And he struggled with that last one and looked close to being out on his feet.

      It was a good win for a good fighter but Kessler has faced on balance the more formidable opposition. Librado Andrade is better than anyone Pavlik has faced in my opinion.
      Andrade is not as good as Miranda IMO

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      • squealpiggy
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        #33
        It's all opinions. Andrade is definitely tougher in the chin than Miranda. I also think he's technically more sound.

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          #34
          Originally posted by squealpiggy
          It's all opinions. Andrade is definitely tougher in the chin than Miranda. I also think he's technically more sound.
          i disagree i think Miranda is a better technically has more power is'nt as easy to hit as Andrade

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            #35
            Originally posted by Kball15
            THE most exciting matchup to be made in boxing. Cotto-Margarito and Cotto-Mayweather in close seconds.

            Id favor Kessler, but it could go either way easily
            No it Couldn't... It's not even close... That is what I call unobjective nuthigging..
            Pavlik is good.. Kessler in on a whole different level...

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              #36
              Originally posted by divad
              Andrade is not as good as Miranda IMO
              I'd have to agree with you. Andrade is only a punching bag for the most of the top 10. Miranda has only two fights at SMW and already has more quality wins than Andrade. All I see on his record is the Kessler defeat and a win over a faded Otis Grant. I doubt Andrade could hang with Allan Green let alone Pavlik or Abraham.

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              • slicksouthpaw16
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                #37
                i would pick Andrade to beat Miranda. he would do Miranda like he did Usaf Mack IMO. walk through his shots, wear him down, and stop him late. Andrade has already proven that he has a cast iron chin and i don't think Miranda hits harder than kessler at supper middleweight. Plus Andrade is getting more technically sound everytime i see him. he could give the champs a hard time.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by shawn1262231
                  Who has Kessler beaten? He won his belts off of Manny Siaca who was 18-4 going in to their bout and the shockingly mediocre Markus Beyer. He's good but he's being severely overrated. Typical European style he has no inside fighting at all that's why when Calzaghe swarmed him and got inside he panicked and didn't know what to do. Everybody he beat I think Taylor and Pavlik could beat. Imagine Pavlik in the ring with Beyer.
                  You're underrating Kessler big time man, Kessler is a lb 4 lb fighter, no doubt. He's also bigger, stronger, faster, better chin and more skills than Pavlik and Kelly is my boy, but Kessler takes him out. Kessler losing a combative and competitive fight against an awkard great champion like Calzaghe doesn't lower his stock in my book, it only makes it grow further actually.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by shawn1262231
                    Who has Kessler beaten? He won his belts off of Manny Siaca who was 18-4 going in to their bout and the shockingly mediocre Markus Beyer. He's good but he's being severely overrated. Typical European style he has no inside fighting at all that's why when Calzaghe swarmed him and got inside he panicked and didn't know what to do. Everybody he beat I think Taylor and Pavlik could beat. Imagine Pavlik in the ring with Beyer.
                    I wouldn't pick Taylor to beat Anthony Mundine.

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                      #40
                      kessler i feel wins this by decision. he is the natural supermiddleweight, good handspeed, can take a good punch, and the better boxer

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