Mayweather says "4 MORE FIGHTS TO CLEAR OUT WW DIVISION"

[Fox McCloud]

your gona compare glen johnson and baldomir? how about some analytical thinking here. one man despite losing questionable decisions, has almost always performed extremely well in other mans backyards against top talent. he other is baldomir

Yeah, the other... the guy who hadn't lost in almost a decade. He lost his first few fights as a pro... like Pacquiao. Then he went on a hotstreak, and beat some big names... like Pacquiao (except without an Erik Morales style hiccup).

If you are nostrodamus, that is fine, but you really shouldn't hold fighters to being psychic in order to be considered great.

Is Fernando Vargas any good? Not really.
Was his career great? Not particularly.
Should Trinidad get credit galore for beating him? Yes, because he was undefeated, and Tito, like everyone else, had no idea that he was going to **** his life and career up by taking steroids.

[Fox McCloud]

good job getting away from the "EVERYONE THOUGHT BALDOMIR WOULD WIN" argument. thats a gem. an message board gem

Okay, why don't you go to youtube and watch the Mayweather-Baldomir countdown... see if you recognize anyone, like Bert Sugar who says that Baldomir has a "hell of a chance" and Jim Lampley, who says Baldomir is more than capable of beating Mayweather.

[jimmy nordon]

hatton isnt a ww
Floyd Mayweather isnt WW either....

so what are trying to say...?

Just Because ricky Hatton he is not a natural WW that doenst make him a WW....?

[B][U]Floyd Mayweather isnt WW either

wow. thats amazing. floyd has entered a division, and participated in it for a couple years now. its called the welterweight division. thats the division he currently holds the belt for.

hatton also has a divison that he competes in. its called the junior welterweight division. he fought once at 147, and it wasnt very impressive. so he went back to 140. hes a junior welterweight.

Im talking about the division each fighter competes in. this thread is started over floyds statements about his division, 147. no logical man can see it any other way. this fight at 140 would mean something. Hatton is THE champ at 140. Floyd was never THE champ at 140. taking that belt would mean alot for a fighter who thinks of himself as the goat.

but I know. I know. you dont care about these facts, these standards all all time great champions have measured up to. lets just celebrate floyd for all of his wonderfulness

[jimmy nordon]

Okay, why don't you go to youtube and watch the Mayweather-Baldomir countdown... see if you recognize anyone, like Bert Sugar who says that Baldomir has a "hell of a chance" and Jim Lampley, who says Baldomir is more than capable of beating Mayweather.

hyping a fight. what was lampley gona say, its gona be a blowout, dont bother watching? no, thats what every boxing writer worth a damn knew was the case. even maxboxings' floyd detractors said carlos wouldnt win a SINGLE round

[jimmy nordon]

as fun as it is to argue with a person who doesnt think floyd is a boxer in the welterweight division, Ive got to sleep. see you later

[jimmy nordon]

Im gona leave you with this though. Ive already stated what maxboxing said. heres a couple others

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...t-predictions/

The oddsmakers keep underestimating Carlos Baldomir, but Floyd Mayweather won’t make that mistake. Floyd will come to the ring in proper physical and mental form, and will utilize his natural speed and solid defense to fight the Argentinean at a distance. Baldomir, a tough, gritty, no-nonsense warrior, will work to close that distance with relentless pressure. He’ll make it close and he’ll make it hard for boxing’s pound-for-pound best, but at the end of twelve tough rounds, Floyd’s hand will be raised as the new and true welterweight champion.
David Berlin

Too fast, too ring smart, too much fighter. Mayweather, who will be comfortable fighting at welterweight, wins by easy decision despite a game and battered Baldomir.
Rick Folstad

Mayweather will win by decision although not as easily as he's used to. Baldomir is a true welterweight with PBF making his way up through the weight classes. With all the hardware on the line (WBC, IBO, IBA) I expect a battle and hope Mayweather emerges 37-0 at the end.
Amy Green

Baldomir caught Zab Judah looking past him, but he won’t have the element of surprise going for him this time. Arturo Gatti? Look what Mayweather did to him. The Argentinean is a tough customer and will probably be around when the final bell rings, but it should be a fairly easy win for Pretty Boy.
George Kimball

Baldomir isn't the best defensively, doesn't move his head much, and is a bit of a plodder with average movement. What he does though is get in your grill and outwork you –against Zab that worked well, and simply being bigger and stronger than Gatti was all it took in that fight. Against Mayweather, though, I feel Baldomir will have too much trouble catching Floyd clean while being countered and slapped around in return fire. Baldomir was never a big hitter but will likely have the edge in pop here as Mayweather has not carried his power up from 135 and 140. Still, it is tough to hit what you can't catch and although I expect Baldomir to have his moments and give Mayweather a test, a wide decision victory for Floyd is in the cards.
Joey Knish

Mayweather has "it." Baldomir doesn't. It would be a huge upset if Baldy could defeat Mayweather and although Baldomir is a helluva fighter, Mayweather is simply too talented. Look for Mayweather to take his time and slowly wear down Baldomir with his speed and combination punching. By round nine Baldomir's face will wear the look of a beaten fighter and while he'll gain even more respect for his courage under fire, Pretty Boy will not be denied. Mayweather via TKO9.
Scott Mallon

On paper Mayweather should destroy Baldomir, but that won't happen. The naturally bigger and stronger Baldomir will be in the fight every step of the way. It won't be pretty, but he should last the distance. Mayweather W 12.
Robert Mladinich

It’s easy to outthink yourself with this matchup and give Baldomir more credit than he has earned. No doubt he is strong and is going to come into this fight better conditioned than he ever has before. We also know history often repeats itself (more than the Rocky series of movies) and there is a reason history repeats itself… because man doesn’t learn from another’s mistake. Take no one for granted. Could there be an upset here? There’s a fleeting chance... Generally the only way an upset happens is when the favored doesn’t do the things he would normally do in training to maintain his advantage over his less talented opposition come fight time. (You could have the advantage of speed but if you get tired by the 4th round, guess what? Your speed becomes negligible.) We know two things for sure… Mayweather is more talented and Baldomir has lost nine times. Heed that warning and the rest will play itself out come Saturday night.
Michael Olajide

The Baldomir story is an incredible journey from rags to riches that nobody wants to see end. Nobody gave him a chance against Judah and there were still doubts about his ability when he fought Gatti (I picked Gatti). Now, you'd be crazy to pick against him considering his eight years without a loss. He's the real deal, the best welterweight in the world, but all great stories reach a pinnacle. I hate to breakup the Cinderella story but Mayweather is just too good right now for anyone. Baldomir handled Judah's speed, but this is no Judah. Mayweather has it all and his speed and accuracy will prove too tall an order. Baldomir will keep coming because he's as tough as they come so the fight should go the distance but look for a one-sided beating with Floyd proving that he's unbeatable, at least right now.
Benn Schulberg

This is the kind of test Mayweather needs, and I think he has the speed of hand and foot to pass it. I do not think he will miss Uncle Roger, but at least we know that should be no fight after the fight.
Ed Schuyler

There will come a time when I will predict Floyd Mayweather to be the loser of an upcoming bout. However, it will not be anytime soon. Mayweather by unanimous decision.
Aaron Tallent

If Baldomir wins he's hands down Fighter of the Year, but unfortunately for Carlos this seems to be the boxing equivalent of if my aunt had juevos she'd be my uncle. Baldomir has plenty of stones himself, but the one casting all the hard rocks is going to be Mayweather, who, if he comes out firing on all cylinders, will put a harsh, ugly stop to Baldomir's underdog dream season.
Phil Woolever

[Fox McCloud]

as fun as it is to argue with a person who doesnt think floyd is a boxer in the welterweight division, Ive got to sleep. see you later

Ricky held a belt at 147 too... he's also coming into the fight as a welterweight... I don't know how that makes him any less of a welterweight than Floyd. Hatton dries out to fight at 140, Mayweather doesn't dry out to fight at 147. I suspect they won't be far off in weight on fight night.

Nighty night.

[jimmy nordon]

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[quntel]

wow. thats amazing. floyd has entered a division, and participated in it for a couple years now. its called the welterweight division. thats the division he currently holds the belt for.

hatton also has a divison that he competes in. its called the junior welterweight division. he fought once at 147, and it wasnt very impressive. so he went back to 140. hes a junior welterweight.

Im talking about the division each fighter competes in. this thread is started over floyds statements about his division, 147. no logical man can see it any other way. this fight at 140 would mean something. Hatton is THE champ at 140. Floyd was never THE champ at 140. taking that belt would mean alot for a fighter who thinks of himself as the goat.

but I know. I know. you dont care about these facts, these standards all all time great champions have measured up to. lets just celebrate floyd for all of his wonderfulness

So you are trying to say Floyd is a Natural W W..?

OR was he fighting in welther weight to get Bigger pay days... and more acclaim.....

Because i could of swor that the reason why he left 130 because
Eric Morrales or Barrerra or Prince Named didnt want to fight him...!

and what do you meaned he never had the 140 title...??

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE GATTI FIGHT WAS FOR..???

Uhhh..... let me think
Maybe for the 140 title....!!!

[BROOKLYN CESAR]

mayweather was on the radio yesterday.he said he is going to knock out hatton by the 5 round. he said that he is going to be the one pressing the fight, right from the bell and hatton isn't going to be ready for it. also he said that shane will knock out cotto, and if some how cotto wins he won't fight him because there is no money in it, which is a lie.he will fight shane if shane wins, which would be an awesome fight,but if shane doesn't win he wants to fight the winner of paul williams and cintron because he said he's not going to retire now until he unfies the welterweight division, "4 more fights is all i need to be unfied champ, maybe even 3, and once i'll do that then i will retire, 8 or 9 belts in 5 weight classes, talk about crazy". lets hope he does like he said,but hatton will be an easy fight, and i have no problem with him fighting shane more than cotto because shane does have a better chance so lets get it on. man 08 is going to be a crazy year in the welterweight division.

Sounds good to me!!! But i think Cotto is maybe the biggest pay day out of the lot!!! Floyd should fight him!!!