Hopkins: "I'll Hand Calzaghe His First Loss"

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calzaghe vs veit 3 we need to see that! ok no. did calzaghe even do anything in the kessler fight? i'm trying to remember but i just can't he ran around a lot and looked flashy but he didnt do anything. kessler was mesmerized by the old man doing the river dance and he forgot to throw punches and still almost won.

just ignore this idiot. If Calzaghe was from Washington DC instead of Wales, UK. Then he'd be playing a different tune.

What a prat.

[DuttyAlacrity]

Lets do some very simple math.

Lets say Bernard throws 30 ppr (punches per round)
Lets say Joe throws 90 ppr

Now lets say Joe makes twice as many mistakes as Bernard.

90/2 = 45 ppr

Joe throwing 90 ppr is the equivalent of Bernard throwing 45 ppr assuming the parameters I laid out.

45ppr-30ppr = 15ppr = Joe > Bernard by a 50% margin given the parameters established in this example.

In essence, Joe outworks Bernard. Simple Math.

Do you know how wrong your calculation is? Do you know how many variables you just ignored in doing this calculation. I would agree that the younger, more active Joe may out work Hopkins. But first of all, like everyone said, Hopkins has a way of nuetralizing his oppenents' strengths. He could tie up joe, smother him, fight dirty, etc. It would be ugly but effective. So we're not sure if Joe would be that active against B-hop. Secondly, errors are not limited to punches: "Now lets say Joe makes twice as many mistakes as Bernard.

90/2 = 45 ppr" I mean are you serious?! Not clinching when he might need to is a mistake, fighting in close is a mistake, not moving when he needed to can be a mistake, keeping his hands too low is mistake, throwing careless punches, leaving himself open for counters is a mistake... I could go on and on
Judges also look for ring generalship, effective punching, Defensive skills (let's not forget Willie Pep one a round without throwing one punch), etc. etc. along with work rate. This is the sweet science... not easy math

[MetalVomit]

Calzaghe is too fast for Hopkins at this point.

[Tuggers1986]

Do you know how wrong your calculation is? Do you know how many variables you just ignored in doing this calculation. I would agree that the younger, more active Joe may out work Hopkins. But first of all, like everyone said, Hopkins has a way of nuetralizing his oppenents' strengths. He could tie up joe, smother him, fight dirty, etc. It would be ugly but effective. So we're not sure if Joe would be that active against B-hop. Secondly, errors are not limited to punches: "Now lets say Joe makes twice as many mistakes as Bernard.

90/2 = 45 ppr" I mean are you serious?! Not clinching when he might need to is a mistake, fighting in close is a mistake, not moving when he needed to can be a mistake, keeping his hands too low is mistake, throwing careless punches, leaving himself open for counters is a mistake... I could go on and on
Judges also look for ring generalship, effective punching, Defensive skills (let's not forget Willie Pep one a round without throwing one punch), etc. etc. along with work rate. This is the sweet science... not easy math

I do not believe this and will never believe it until i see it.

[Mozza]

I do not believe this and will never believe it until i see it.

Not only do I not believe it happened but I would not award any fighter a round if they did not throw a punch. At best they would get a draw.

[DuttyAlacrity]

Not only do I not believe it happened but I would not award any fighter a round if they did not throw a punch. At best they would get a draw.

Do you guys even know who Willie Pep was?!?
It's hard for me to discuss boxing with you guys if you don't even know who willie pep was. I thought this was an axiom by this point, anyone that knows boxing history knows about that feat.
Let me suggest some reading for y'all
100 Greatest fighters of all time by Burt Sugar
that should put y'all up to speed.

[Double]

All I know is I have no interest whatsoever in seeing this fight.

[C'MONMANG']

Calzaghe is too fast for Hopkins at this point.

you're right. he is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too fast for Hopkins..

[big paulie]

does anyone seriously think b-hop can still be dominant against ayounger, much faster opponent? bh would be what, 43 by the time the fight comes round and simply wouldnt be able to cope with jc pace, i cant believe people are taking this one seriously. it should of happened five years ago when jc had the opportunity to swallow his pride, go to the states and take the smaller cut and face hopkins or jones, he decided not to so will always have that question mark over his head. congratulations to joe on beating the best opponent of his career at age 35.